Hello everyone. New WL110 owner operator here.

Hello everyone. New WL110 owner operator here.

PostBy: 711 On: Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:15 pm

First off I'd like to thank everyone here for taking the time to post there experiences operating this equipment, I really have learned a lot of practical experience with out having to make the mistakes myself. Thanks...

I purchased the WL110 upon recommendation of my local coal stove shop(Complete heat, Nashua, NH), 3 weeks ago, took delivery two weeks ago and installed myself the next week and she has been running one week now(01/29/12). Cleaned her up after a week and had very minimal fly ash. Also the weather here in NH has been very mild.

Background:
3000 square gambrel, 4 zones, (garage zone unused, one zone set above freeze 45, two used main living quarters) house built in the 80's, hardly tightly insulated as she could be.

Settings:
5 gpm DHW coil unused.
L6006a dump 210 w/5 diff.
HL 162
LL 130 both w/ 10 diff.
smoulder settings:
10 min. off 24 sec. on /Rheostats, pusher min. fan about half
burning Kimmel rice.
Draft .01 WC on the base at smoulder, .025 on fire, Baro. set at six, I have no breach readings as I have no hole in the pipe yet. I have no back draft issues.

I am very happy with the boiler overall, I just have a few small issues.
Paperwork provided was good but could have been better. (props to Matt at LL for the provided phone numbers, I reserve the right to call but I am such a stubborn prick I probably wouldn't ever.)
Triple Aquastat is very good but mounted upside down(digital readout upside down) I don't know if this could be fixed.
Top clean out doesn't stay shut sometimes , I need to grind a little relief on the angle, so it will hold better.
711
 
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Re: Hello everyone. New WL110 owner operator here.

PostBy: jpd989 On: Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:58 pm

Best of luck on your new heating system. I have been using mine now for almost a month and I am very happy with its performance. I especially like the hot water coil and the money it saves me.
jpd989
 
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Re: Hello everyone. New WL110 owner operator here.

PostBy: tsb On: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:10 pm

The DHW coil is the best part of a boiler system.
Why is the upper temp only 160 ? Your not making it work
very hard.
Post a picture if you get a chance.
tsb
 
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Re: Hello everyone. New WL110 owner operator here.

PostBy: stoker_RI On: Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:34 pm

Hi from RI..I have the same boiler..I have had my WL110 since April, and have been using it ever since..right thru the summer..

I have a couple of opinions to offer about your settings...

HL 162
LL 130 both w/ 10 diff.

First of all..why do yo have them set so low at this time of the year? For a barn your size, if we get any real Winter weather, I think you may be a bit chilly!

- I believe the spread between your H and low should be between 20-25... I think 32 is too much..

I would suggest 160LL and 180HL

smoulder settings:
10 min. off 24 sec. on /Rheostats, pusher min. fan about half


-This may work for you now, but pretty sure only because of periodic calls for heat..I think you will find that the 24 sec. on time will cause you to have out fires once the weather moderates even more going forward...you can prolly get away with about 8 off 42, or 7 off 32 on in the months ahead.

Draft .01 WC on the base at smoulder, .025 on fire

-I believe these settings are too low..You should have your over the fire draft between .03-.04.
..In speaking with Matt, I have always heard him say the base reading should be about .02-.025...Actually, he has said that when you see the base reading DROP to about .01, then that's a good indication that you are in need of a cleanning....I think you need more draft

How do u like Kimmel rice? I can only get Blaschak here in Southern NE..where do u get that from? how much?

BTW...Be Glad you have a manual at all! :) ... Those of us who purchased early on didn't have such a luxury for many months!..right Matt? :D
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Re: Hello everyone. New WL110 owner operator here.

PostBy: stoker_RI On: Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:16 pm

Ok..mis-read your info about the base draft..you are good...will you be getting a manometer for measuring flue draft?
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Re: Hello everyone. New WL110 owner operator here.

PostBy: whistlenut On: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:14 am

Your LL 'Owners Club' is gaining members daily. When folks call for a boiler, they also ask if LL is available thru our company. Matt and Dave have hit the 'sweet spot' AND support their products. Keep us updated. :idea: ;)
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Re: Hello everyone. New WL110 owner operator here.

PostBy: 711 On: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:15 pm

stoker_RI wrote:
I would suggest 160LL and 180HL


The Axeman seems so efficient at catching heat unless its taking on a cold zone the boiler hovers around 170 without frequent calls for heat.


I think you will find that the 24 sec. on time will cause you to have out fires once the weather moderates even more going forward...you can prolly get away with about 8 off 42, or 7 off 32 on in the months ahead.
I backed the timing off to 9 off 24, min 2/3 fan and min. fuel feeder and have haven't had an out-fire even on 50 plus degree days


How do u like Kimmel rice? I can only get Blaschak here in Southern NE..where do u get that from? how much?
I have no complaints about the kimmel, though i don't know *censored* about coal so? It's uniform in it's rice form and I haven't found any debris seem to burn fine in the unit, I buy from a local Agway, Milford, NH and pay 300/ton delivered. I really would like to find a few locals to go in on a truckload, bulk or bagged.



I'll get a few pictures soon, I did have a little issue when I neglected to empty the ash pan in a timely manner and she got a bit too full the ash backed up over the burn pile and caused a CO meter to fire off, it didn't put the fire out but it was a lesson learned.
711
 
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Stove/Furnace Model: LL110

Re: Hello everyone. New WL110 owner operator here.

PostBy: whistlenut On: Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:20 pm

Hi 711! Ash pan....hmmmmmmmmm I know they come with at least two. and worst case, you could run without one just to get through a difficult period.
I know they want you to add your location, however you must be in the Amherst, Mont Vernon, Hollis, Merrimack, New Boston area. ........and welcome to the forum!
Your coal price is very fair , especially since delivery is included. You will be surprised how small the margin is in the fuel.....hardly worth getting involved.

I think you have a handle on the timers, and if not, I can help you. Understand that they are only active when the boiler aquastat is NOT calling for heat. The 'on and off' times relate to the duration of the time the fire needs to run to maintain an acceptable minimum rate of fire, thus preventing an outfire. They do not control the boiler temp, that function is as most boiler done with the triple aquastat.
In case you are wondering why the triple aquastat is upside down when a tankless coil is installed.......the tapped hole for the aquastat is factory predrilled, so unless there is NO tankless coil, you have to stand on your head to read the digital output.
You can opt for a 3' remote probe cable (16.00 I think) and remount the aquastat on the side cover. If you opt for a Hydrostat 3150, the digital read is OUTSIDE the cover.......honeywell isn't that friendly just yet. No wonder Taco bought the Hydro line....If you can't make a better one yourself, just buy the competition!
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