Obama Coal Crackdown

Re: Obama Coal Crackdown

PostBy: samhill On: Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:14 pm

When Rush was a DJ in McKeesport, Pa. he was let go because he couldn't keep his mouth shut & play records, the records is what paid the stations bills. There were places around the mon=valley towns that he couldn't walk into so they finally canned him & he did a talk show in Pittsburgh for awhile. Thought he knew everything then & still does.
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Re: Obama Coal Crackdown

PostBy: rkodo On: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:15 pm

I believe if they get the chance, all coal plants will close.http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/008304.html Just check this site out!! rko
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Re: Obama Coal Crackdown

PostBy: homecomfort On: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:24 pm

If closing down the mostly oldest, dirtiest, inefficient coal fired electric generating plants , to protect the air and environment, and eventually improve capacity and reliability in the future, is a bad thing to some, think smarter. we will as a smart society certainly find better, cleaner ways to generate electricity. We have the technology, and need to get out of the stone age.
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Re: Obama Coal Crackdown

PostBy: lsayre On: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:29 pm

homecomfort wrote:If closing down the mostly oldest, dirtiest, inefficient coal fired electric generating plants , to protect the air and environment, and eventually improve capacity and reliability in the future, is a bad thing to some, think smarter. we will as a smart society certainly find better, cleaner ways to generate electricity. We have the technology, and need to get out of the stone age.


Do you heat with coal? If so, are you not personally violating everything you just said?
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Re: Obama Coal Crackdown

PostBy: rkodo On: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:32 pm

He Just uses the EPA. He will do it guys!!! I work for an electric co. Our boss says its going to happen and we have to get ready for customer backlash. The industry is against it, what do we do? Check this site out: http://starbeacon.com/local/x1296869807 ... ark-Sept-1 This is just one county in the USA. rko
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Re: Obama Coal Crackdown

PostBy: lsayre On: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:37 pm

rkodo wrote:He Just uses the EPA. He will do it guys!!! I work for an electric co. First energy, our CEO says its going to happen and we have to get ready for customer backlash. The industry is against it, what do we do? Check this site out: http://starbeacon.com/local/x1296869807 ... ark-Sept-1 This is just one county in the USA. rko


What can we do? We can start by breaking the establishment DemoPubilicans virtually exclusive stranglehold lock upon the holding of an elected office.
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Re: Obama Coal Crackdown

PostBy: rkodo On: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:38 pm

Of course we are going to close oldest plants first. Then they will close all the plants. Then we will send all our coal to China. They will burn it cleaner than we do R R R R ight. Last time I checked we live on the same planet. rko
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Re: Obama Coal Crackdown

PostBy: lsayre On: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:40 pm

Be careful with the use of the word "we". Another way out is to excercise ones voice within a local 'PTA' meeting (assuming that such meetings even exist in this day and age) and insist upon the reading of 'Atlas Shrugged' in our local school systems.
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Re: Obama Coal Crackdown

PostBy: rkodo On: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:45 pm

Your right I'll put my stove up for sale at the end of the season! rko
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Re: Obama Coal Crackdown

PostBy: lsayre On: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:53 pm

rkodo wrote:Your right I'll put my stove up for sale at the end of the season! rko


??? :shock: ???
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Re: Obama Coal Crackdown

PostBy: rkodo On: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:07 pm

Gotcha! just kidding. rko
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Re: Obama Coal Crackdown

PostBy: pine grove coal user On: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:05 pm

I think that Rush is right on this. The Rush haters won't give him credit though.
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Re: Obama Coal Crackdown

PostBy: rkodo On: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:29 am

pine grove coal user wrote:I think that Rush is right on this. The Rush haters won't give him credit though.

Amen!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Obama Coal Crackdown

PostBy: Berlin On: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:18 pm

The oldest plants are the cheapest and simplest to operate and, sometimes, more efficient as well. Wholesale prices for power from some of these plants is in the $.02 - $.03/KWH range. New plants are $04- $.06/KWH.

Older plants dirty? Please. :roll: you get a higher dose of "pollution" every time you empty your ashpan than what you'll get living next to an older coal power plant for a year. Glad to see all those years of green propaganda in grade school has paid off and managed to really sink in to some folks.

This is the height of stupidity. We have an abundant source of inexpensive domestic energy and we're doing everything to shut it down and make it expensive.

Also, lets not forget how many small coal operators and miners are going to be affected. Many of the smaller companies sell their coal to be blended with larger companies' coal for the plants. What you don't hear about is how many small industrial and small spreader stoker heating plants and under 20MW plants have closed or will be closing because of less publicized regulations.
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Re: Obama Coal Crackdown

PostBy: Yanche On: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:05 pm

The old coal plant in Alexandria, VA right across the river from Washington, D.C. is to shut down in 2012. It's pollution history started long before Obama. Must have been during the Republican Bush administration. :-) I guess even politicians don't like breeding polluted air.

Read the news announcement here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/ale ... story.html

Berlin, could you post some links to the regulations that are effecting the smaller heating plants.
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