Prayers NEEDED ! Brian's Passing

Re: Prayers NEEDED !

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:21 pm

SMITTY wrote:With all the advances in modern medicine today, it almost seems as if they are deliberately holding back on the cure. :mad: Makes you wonder. We have phones that can unlock the doors of your truck ... but we can't cure cancer??? Something is seriously wrong here.


There are a few schools of thought on that subject, I don't want to get off topic here, but remember without disease we would have reduced need for hospitals and related businesses and also remember big pharma drugs are big business! The "healthcare" profession counts on people getting sick. If you don't get sick then they have no business. No matter how much they try to convince you to take steps to stay healthy-they depend on you to get sick at some point or another. Interesting isn't it?
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Re: Prayers NEEDED !

PostBy: Yanche On: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:07 am

Wood'nCoal wrote:
SMITTY wrote:With all the advances in modern medicine today, it almost seems as if they are deliberately holding back on the cure. :mad: Makes you wonder. We have phones that can unlock the doors of your truck ... but we can't cure cancer??? Something is seriously wrong here.


There are a few schools of thought on that subject, I don't want to get off topic here, but remember without disease we would have reduced need for hospitals and related businesses and also remember big pharma drugs are big business! The "healthcare" profession counts on people getting sick. If you don't get sick then they have no business. No matter how much they try to convince you to take steps to stay healthy-they depend on you to get sick at some point or another. Interesting isn't it?

What you are failing to comprehend is how incredibly complex cancer is. Science still doesn't have much of a scientific understanding of what causes cancer let alone a cure. Perhaps your children's children will see a cure, but there will be none in our lifetimes. Right now all we are doing is killing the growing cancer cells, we don't have much of a clue why they malformed and started rapid growth. Early detection is the key, so there aren't many cancer cells to kill. And since our cell killing methods are crude we also kill cells we don't want to kill.

Don't worry about the hospitals not having enough patients. Keep living an unhealthy lifestyle and they will have lots of future business. Still smoking, smoke more and speed up the process. The undertakers need the business. Trickle down jobs to the grave diggers, casket makers and florists too.
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Re: Prayers NEEDED !

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:16 am

Not failing to comprehend that at all, Yanche. As I said, there are several schools of thought on the subject. I understand your point completely.
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Re: Prayers NEEDED !

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:11 am

In 1924 Nobel Prize winner Otto Heinrich Warburg from Germany concluded that when deprived of oxygen at a level of roughly 35% or more vs. what they normally require many to most living cells (literally in an attempt at self preservation) will morf from arobic (oxygen breathing) into a far more primitive anarobic state, and in this state their ability to die is switched off and they become eternal like they were before they evolved to become oxygen breathers. Once in the anarobic state they feed on glucose alone instead of a mixture of oxygen and foods. In the anerobic state such cells are effectively cancer cells. He was able to show this in the lab over and over again.

As far as I know this avenue to cancer is not being seriously (if at all) researched today (if it ever was sans for Warburg), and genetics are where its at. Perhaps we are not finding the cures because we reject his Nobel Prize winning work and we are chasing the genetics route instead?

Here is a Warburg quote that I scarfed off of Wikepedia: "Cancer, above all other diseases, has countless secondary causes. But, even for cancer, there is only one prime cause. Summarized in a few words, the prime cause of cancer is the replacement of the respiration of oxygen in normal body cells by a fermentation of sugar." -- Dr. Otto H. Warburg

What Warburg failed to discover was the mechanism or the reason as to why cells morfed, or as to why and how they could become locally deprived of oxygen. He well understood the end result, but not the factors leading up to it.
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Re: Prayers NEEDED ! Brian's passing

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:49 am

Well the melanoma cancer is an amazingly aggressive cancer.. it's almost as if it is able to harness the entire body's growth potential to put into tumor growth.

So from the second week of January, when Brian's Liver numbers were close to normal, to ten days ago, when the Liver numbers were off the charts..
And the small tumor had grown tenfold or more in volume, fataly destroying Brians liver.. all in a few weeks.

I spoke with Brian on Wednesday afternoon, he was not in good shape.. it seems the Doctor's 'two months' forcast' was amended with a call to Brian and his wife on Wednesday night to 'two weeks'.. even that was wildly optomistic.

Brian went into the hospital on Thursday, got the first of four chemo treatments.. but it was too little, too late.
Brian came home Thursday night, had a very rough night, went back in the hospital yesterday, Friday morning. He was stabilized,
but his liver had shut down, his kidneys were doing the same..
Brian went home Friday afternoon, with Hospice care set up, the bed etc.. He had a Morphine pump, and other needed support items.

I was notified of Brian's condition at around 7pm, apparently Brian's wife Tracie, and Brian didn't want me to make the 120 mile round trip to see him: they were worried about MY health condition.. Well I went anyway..

I was able to spend some time with Brian while he was still lucid, at times. But he was obvioulsly very, very weak, Tracie and I also had a nice but painfully difficult talk. I left Brian and Tracie around 10pm..

Brian passed at roughly 1:30 this morning. in his home with his wife at his side.

Godspeed Brian.. life doesn't offer many good people and friends like you to us.. You will be missed.

Greg L
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Re: Prayers NEEDED ! Brian's Passing

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:51 am

Sorry to hear, Greg. That sucks.
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Re: Prayers NEEDED ! Brian's Passing

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:56 am

Greg, I'm very sorry to hear about your friend. You did the right thing, when a friend is on their death bed it is time to saddle up and go support them and their family.
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Re: Prayers NEEDED ! Brian's Passing

PostBy: theo On: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:00 am

Very sorry to hear this.
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Re: Prayers NEEDED ! Brian's Passing

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:25 am

You've really had a time of it. I don't like being only Human at times like this....I want to help,to save,to take away pain,suffering,fear,waste....I want to give hope,chances,love,futures,strength and the ability to stop for a minute to get your breath back and feel like there's a valid tomorrow....I've come to find that there's no large "S" on my chest....I don't have a cape,let alone a hook to hang it on at night....I'm not Superman....I'm not God...I'm just a human....So,with all that in mind,Gregg,do the best you can for the Living,and Honor,Remember and Carry the memory of your Friend.......Please remember yourself,too....'Kinda hard to give a drink of water when your well's dry......Take Care,My Friend !
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Re: Prayers NEEDED ! Brian's Passing

PostBy: theo On: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:38 am

I know this is not much but i always keep this in mind, " A man is not dead until he is forgotten " Always remember the times spent with him.
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Re: Prayers NEEDED ! Brian's Passing

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:48 pm

Very sorry to hear of your friend Brians passing. Life can be so unfair at times. Stay strong my friend.
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Re: Prayers NEEDED ! Brian's Passing

PostBy: stoker_RI On: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:03 pm

So sorry to hear of the loss of your friend..life can be so un-fair..about 8 years ago in my neighborhood, we lost a friend, 40 yrs old, of the same thing..at the time he had 4 kids under 12...

Now, 2 houses down, we have a family of 6, 4 kids under 12, parents are friends, both 41..wonderful people..their second oldest boy, 10, friend of my 11 year old son, was diagnosed just before ThanksGiving, with an in-operable malignant brain tumor in his brain stem..the worst type..he has just been thru 6 straight weeks of radiation...all the research concludes the same thing: 6 weeks of radiation, tumor shrinks, then comes roaring back..with 6-9 months left after that..2 yr survival rate is 5%... soooo sad...

Wonderful people around here tho, 1 friend put together a 'novena' at the local church for 8 straight Tuesday nights..and you know? That church was packed every Tuesday!..that was nice to see..
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Re: Prayers NEEDED ! Brian's Passing

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:58 pm

I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend. I have been praying for him since I had originally read this thread.

Stay strong.
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Re: Prayers NEEDED ! Brian's Passing

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:23 pm

So sorry to hear of your friends Brians passing, guess I was praying for a miracle, may he rest in peace.
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Re: Prayers NEEDED ! Brian's Passing

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:05 pm

Gosh Greg,

So very sorry buddy, I just read this post. My roadrunner's been acting up lately and I only come on for a few minutes at a time. Life can seem totally unfair at times but is, as we all know, the most incredible gift we ever get. No matter the length, it's all about quality time and sometimes, we just take for granted that we have allot more time than we might have. The fact that Brian is so young makes it truly that much harder to except.
I had a good friend that went to have a colonoscopy done last year. It was fine but the next day (coincidentally I guess?) he had a sore throat and couldn't shake it. Long story short, he was already stage III when he found out. They gave him 6 months and that was exactly as long as he lasted. You just never know. I've known people who took great care of themselves (like this Greg did) and people who lived roughshod but for whatever reason, genetics or luck, they are healthy way beyond what they should be.

Things like this remind me to wake up up every day and be happy that I'm alive and my loved ones are doing well. I don't think I'll ever be bored again. There are just to many things I like to do and will miss doing when my time comes to ever even think that I don't have it great! It's all about the quality time and living life like everyday might be the last.
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