Dooms Day Preperation !!!

 
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Post by AA130FIREMAN » Sat. Feb. 18, 2012 12:41 pm

Anyone see (or could be on ?) the show doomsday preppers on the history channel ? How many of us are prepared like these folks are ? Underground fallout shelters, years worth of food and water, and guns and ammo ? I told my daughter I am sort of prepared myself, I have a generator, ammo, and of coarse some coal to keep warm :D . Now as far as the fall out shelter, I'm slacking :lol: I do like the look of one mans house, steel shipping containers built one on top of another in a circle leaving a court yard in the middle like a castle, and school busses to get out of dodge if the sh*t really hits the fan.


 
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Post by LsFarm » Sat. Feb. 18, 2012 5:43 pm

I saw that show, and while I'm not as well prepared as most of those guys, I would be able to get by...

Plenty of coal, probably 4-5 years if I heat the shop, more like 12 years if I heat the house only.
I have plans for the solar electric panels. , currently have a good diesel genset and ~ 30 days of diesel 24/7, which I wouldn't use it that way.

about a year of food for two, more with some conservation, both hand pumped well and electric. and lots of land to plant crops on. but that's long term.

my biggest fear is that I'm only an hour drive from an urban ratsnest of totally unprepared city dwellers.. and I'd have a hard time defending my place with a concentrated flanking attack.

So I have plans to set up a commune, combine the efforts and stores of most of my neighbors, block the roads. set up perimeters..

I need night vision equipment, and some other things.

But I won't be totally screwed if it really 'hits the fan'. at least for the short, term , maybe 1 year.

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Post by CoalUserWannabe » Sat. Feb. 18, 2012 6:03 pm

I am prepared too! I didn't see the show, I don't care to see the show.

Lots of beer, forget the coal, I need the snow and ice to keep the beer cold !
on cold beer alone, I can survive for more than few days, tell me guys can you eat coal ?
out of three guys, one have coal, one have food, one have beer and a gun, guess who'll end up with everything ?

 
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Post by Sting » Sat. Feb. 18, 2012 6:31 pm

I was just a "lad" one day watching my father diggin a hole for a new outhouse
A fellow stopped by and asked him if he was building a Fall Out shelter (those days politically correct for BOMB SHELTER)

- these were the days when children were taught to hide under their wooden desks at shooooll - in preparation for a neculaear attack of fireballs!

And I recall this because my father looked at the man with his some what illegal Endeavor and said ----wait for it

NO sir -- this will be more of a FALL-IN shelter

People have been preparing for "doomsday' since man first waked the earth -- Folks have sold everything to stand on a mountain and welcome it -- waiting there and freezing to death

-- guess they found their doomsday

There are far too many "old" people with far too much money who will loose too much THIS ALONE will prevent anything you can possibly prepare for

 
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Post by Sting » Sat. Feb. 18, 2012 6:33 pm

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Post by lowfog01 » Sat. Feb. 18, 2012 7:18 pm

If you want to get a good feel about how your elected officials feel about this need take a look at your public buildings. I was at the library the other day and all the doors and windows are now labeled as "shelter in place." They all have kits with plastic and tape, water and what not. The government buildings and schools are taking the same steps. The thought is more to combat an EMP and with that the radiation threat to humans is about 72 hours - hence the 72 hour kit.

My family all have 72 hour back packs in good hiking packs. We also have a good wagon for pulling more equipment. The kits have basic food, first aid and water. They will start out heavy but as we use the kits, the load will lighten. We also have family emergency relocation plans that everyone knows so we aren't dependent on the phone. We are each heading to the same friend's house in Southern VA to join up before heading to my parent's house in the North GA mountains. Those kits are if the need to evacuate the area exists. The 72 hour kits are kept in the trunk of our cars.

For shelter in place situations, we have a year's supply of basic foods and build and rotate that every month. When I make a dinner I purchase the ingredients from the store but put the new cans in the food storage. When the day comes to make the dish, I pull the food items from the front of the shelf. That way I'm always using the oldest can first. DK made me an angled shelf so the cans roll down as I use them. I discovered that my "food saver" sealer can seal Mylar bags so I use those to store my bulk flour, wheat and beans. I also store oatmeal. I haven't brought flour, sugar, or other grains from the grocery store in years. Buying bulk really cuts your prices. The bags are found on line but shop around. The prices can vary a lot.

I'm happy with my emergency food planning. During our recent wedding adventure I didn't have to go shopping - except for milk,eggs and some veggies - for the entire month of Jan. That really gave me a good idea of how much and what type of food we actually use during a month. That's important, store what you use and use what you store.

I do have to admit I feel a little disjunct and left out when everyone else on the block is making those last minute runs to the grocery store before the "big storm." I miss the sense of community. ;)

 
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Post by I'm On Fire » Sat. Feb. 18, 2012 8:06 pm

I'm not prepared. But that's because I'm secretly hoping to become a zombie and go on a never ending hunt for fresh brains.


 
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Post by coalnewbie » Sat. Feb. 18, 2012 8:18 pm

If you store food it's seems to be MRE. So you really have to eat the food you store. Do you want to live on years old MRE? Beer and coal - OK.

 
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Post by Yanche » Sat. Feb. 18, 2012 8:32 pm

There is a potential catastrophic event from Sun generated electromagnetic weather. These could shut down he electric power grid and if severe enough cause damage it would take many months to restore. What happens the the strong magnetic fields from space trip the circuit breakers or induce such large currents in substation transformers that they burn up. These are huge 100-200 ton transformers that are custom manufactured, there are no spares. If a substantial number failed it would take years to replace them. Modern life as we know it would be stopped cold. Here's a simulation of a March 1989 magnetic storm that knocked out the Quebec power grid. It only took 92 seconds from the field arrival to complete failure of the power grid.
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http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/the-smarter-grid/ ... oportions/

 
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Post by AA130FIREMAN » Sat. Feb. 18, 2012 11:27 pm

Can we really be prepared for the unexpected, I don't think so, we have never gone threw it. Am I prepared, I have no idea until I go threw it. I have some food to last for weeks, if it gets that bad, atomic radiation, what will be here to live for ? I'd give it the best fight my witts and common sence can dish out. When my time is up, I hope and think I'm prepared for the next chapter. I'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN I GET THERE......

 
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Post by lowfog01 » Sun. Feb. 19, 2012 2:32 am

coalnewbie wrote:If you store food it's seems to be MRE. So you really have to eat the food you store. Do you want to live on years old MRE? Beer and coal - OK.
Not so... other then our 72 hour kit we have no MREs in our food storage. To rotate those they go camping with the teenage male slave if he wants them. If not I donate them to the younger scouts. They'll eat anything.

Write down your menu for a month, that's what you need to store. I have enough basics for our food choices not to have to change all that much. As I said, store what you eat and eat what you store. Start with a month's worth - get that by buying two of everything for one or two meals a trip to the store. Do that every time you shop - for instance pretty much every time I'm at Costco I pickup canned meat. Then I use it so I doesn't go out of date.

There are a lot of website dedicated to food storage. Not all of us are "survivalist;" we just want to be able to take care of our family in times of need.

 
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Post by coalnewbie » Sun. Feb. 19, 2012 5:40 am

we just want to be able to take care of our family in times of need.
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Lowfog you are right, I ordered 432 packs off the Mrbeer.com site. You can never be too prepared. Strict stock rotation and every new batch number has to be sampled for consistency of taste. I intend to start the task seriously when spring ends (we never had winter). I know I am not really preparing well but when the end comes I really won't care.

 
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Post by anthony7812 » Sun. Feb. 19, 2012 7:38 am

The way I look at it, I wanna be at ground zero when whatever happens. Hell with living like a damn caged rat. Get it over quick if you ask me :stretcher:

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sun. Feb. 19, 2012 7:54 am

My understanding is that no matter what comes at us, an outragiously high BAC will deter anything airbound. Me??? I'm headed to SMITTY's to get him, his wife & his ever flowing stash of exotic alcoholic beverages & heading back to the self sustaining lil horse farm. Oh, PS--did I forget weapons & ammo. ;)

 
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Post by Black_And_Blue » Sun. Feb. 19, 2012 8:18 am

Doomsday = set up the lawn chairs and crack open a beverage, enjoy the last moments of your life !

For everything else :

http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com/

http://www.tacticalintelligence.net/

many other common sense applications for those with eyes to see and ears to hear ;-)


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