heat

heat

PostBy: tbrooks56 On: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:53 pm

i bought a Pocono 2 90.000 BTU coal stove installed it in my basement piped it through my plenum of my oil furnace to use my blower . stove is fired up and blower is kicking on but iam not getting any heat to the main floor . Not sure where the heat is going stove is hot enough that i cant touch the sides . I have 2 10 inch cold air pipes going into the sides of my jacket one on each side .I plugged off some of the cold air ducts with rolled insulation at the register. Can anyone help with this ? I have a coal trol digital thermostat on it . Please help will wait for response . Thanks for all the help in advance
Terry
tbrooks56
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line cole stove
Stove/Furnace Model: pocono 2 90,000 btu

Re: heat

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:00 pm

Are you plumbing it to the Cold Air Return Duct? are you using the Furnace blower or the blowers on the stove?

Post a pic or two of your setup.

What the rating of your Current OIl Furnace?

What's your settings on the Coaltrol? Min/Max, your room temp, Feed Rate, etc...

Do you have a Baro Damper Installed? Have you set your draft correctly?
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: heat

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:12 pm

tbrooks56 wrote:I plugged off some of the cold air ducts with rolled insulation at the register

How does the furnace get cold air return if you plugged the registers? Where is the return air coming from in the two 10 inch ducts you installed?
franco b
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea


Re: heat

PostBy: tbrooks56 On: Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:12 pm

yes iam pluming it through the cold air side of my furnace which is oil forced air will be using the blower on the furnace to move the warm air it is 130.000 thousand BTU oil furnace i had the stove at max feed 100 percent and still cant move the heat the coal trol was at min 6 max 40 FR 85 percent room temp 70 have installed a jacket you would think it would be hot on top and sides but cool. I have 2 10 inch cold air pipes coming to each side of the jacket that air is coming from the main floor of the house so the air has been heated . I do have some pictures of my setup on here some where .If i open the front door of the stove the top of the jacket will start to get hot . When it was running at 100 percent the stove was very hot but when the blower kicked on and i went up to check the register the air coming out was cold Can anyone help me with this problem Will thank you all now

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tbrooks56
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line cole stove
Stove/Furnace Model: pocono 2 90,000 btu

Re: heat

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:20 pm

Sounds like the furnace is bypassing the Pocono...
If the air path does not divert properly into the Pocono...
the heat can not move to the house...
CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: heat

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:31 pm

A complete circuit is needed...what air goes out needs to come in from somewhere and vice versa. :idea:

And air will always take the path of least resistance...any/all leaks will reduce desired path effectiveness. :idea:
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: heat

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:42 pm

tbrooks56 wrote:yes iam pluming it through the cold air side of my furnace

If I understand correctly your coal furnace is going into the cold side or return of the oil furnace. It seems the oil furnace blower is finding it easier to pull from its own return openings in the rooms rather than through the coal furnace. Closing off the returns in the rooms going to the oil furnace should force the air to pull through the coal furnace. You stated that when you took the front cover off the coal furnace it got hot on the top. It sounds like air was finally pulling through it because you lowered resistance for it to do so.
franco b
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: heat

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:59 pm

Gonna need a few pics of your setup to helps us understand how this is setup...
From the LL site...
http://www.leisurelinestoves.com/1904137.html
CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: heat

PostBy: oliver power On: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:47 am

Yes, Pictures..........
oliver power
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: KEYSTOKER Kaa-2
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93 & 30-95, Vigilant (pre-Vigilant-II)
Baseburners & Antiques: MANY (Mostly when burning wood)
Stove/Furnace Make: HITZER / KEYSTOKER
Stove/Furnace Model: 50-93 & 30-95 , Kaa-2

Re: heat

PostBy: tbrooks56 On: Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:25 pm

here are the pictures of my setup hope it will help you help me with this problem
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tbrooks56
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line cole stove
Stove/Furnace Model: pocono 2 90,000 btu

Re: heat

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:55 pm

more pics need to see the full run...
looks to be a...
CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

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PostBy: tbrooks56 On: Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:12 pm

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tbrooks56
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line cole stove
Stove/Furnace Model: pocono 2 90,000 btu

Re: heat

PostBy: tbrooks56 On: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:34 pm

hope this will help you give me ideas on why iam not getting the heat out of my stove
tbrooks56
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line cole stove
Stove/Furnace Model: pocono 2 90,000 btu

Re: heat

PostBy: Coalfire On: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:20 pm

It is tough to get a view of everything, but why three pipes coming out of the stove? run the one to the furnace, and be done. I would block off the furnaces cold air return, when the stove is tied in. your warm air is probably getting diluted be the cold air coming down the return.


Also Maybe I missed it, post a general area of where you are. You might be in sombodys back yard who could come and give a look see at it.



Eric
Coalfire
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 96K btu Circulator
Coal Size/Type: Nut

Re: heat

PostBy: Freddy On: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:12 am

Picture 111.31 shows a duct pipe coming out the left side and going up, over the top and going in the right side. The heat doesn't go anywhere! You might as well remove all that pipe and cap the holes.

To move hot air you need a complete smooth circle of moving air..... cold air in from low parts of the rooms that you want to heat, it gets heated, then hot air out, going back to those same rooms, hopefully on the other side of the room from where you took the cold air.
Freddy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined