Hitzer 50-93 Questions

Re: Hitzer 50-93 Questions

PostBy: oliver power On: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:06 am

freetown fred wrote:I've got to disagree on that mix theory. The way to keep it just right is to learn how to run the stove properly & with all the input from fellow FORUM members, it took me one season to do that. Why would I want to do all that mix this & mix that when the stove is as simplistic to run as the 50-93 is? I've had this stove idling during 70* days and 40* nights--maybe opened a windowstat to let some fresh air in during the day.

Yes, I agree with you Fred. The only wood I ever burned in my 50-93, was for starting the fire.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: KEYSTOKER Kaa-2
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93 & 30-95, Vigilant (pre-Vigilant-II)
Baseburners & Antiques: MANY (Mostly when burning wood)
Stove/Furnace Make: HITZER / KEYSTOKER
Stove/Furnace Model: 50-93 & 30-95 , Kaa-2

Re: Hitzer 50-93 Questions

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:45 pm

If you have a bi-metalic controlled stove the learning curve is much easier as is the day to day operation...
I started with slides then spinners...
The local conditions, baro/mpd and how the install all affect the workings of the stove...
The Hitzers and other stoves with the 'automatic' air control make it much easier...
The MarkII even with a baro needed some range due to the wind conditions here...
I like the KISS if the DS now, just a MPD...
But I slept in and the outdoor temps went from 20* to 50*...
So it was 79* inside when I got up...
CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: Hitzer 50-93 Questions

PostBy: LDPosse On: Wed May 09, 2012 10:29 pm

Figured I'd give this a bump, since burning season is over for most of the forum members! If anyone has interior stove pics, I'd love to see them. I'd also like to see interior pictures of a DS Machine stove if anyone has any available.

I am in a bit of a quandry at this point... I have been going back and forth, trying to decide if the Hitzer is the route I want to go, or if maybe the DS Machine circulator would be a better option...

My stove is in the basement, and there is a floor vent situated directly above the stove. I get an impressive amount of heat thru the vent from my existing stove. I was thinking that maybe the DS circulator, with its vertical tubes, might help to direct more heat straight up and through the vent, rather than using the Hitzer's blower, and blowing the hot air all around the basement.

I have looked at many posts between the two stoves here on the forum, and it sounds like they are both very well made. Does it truely come down to personal preference?
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Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine, Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1500, Heatrola

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Re: Hitzer 50-93 Questions

PostBy: fastcat On: Wed May 09, 2012 11:46 pm

[quote="LDPosse"]Figured I'd give this a bump, since burning season is over for most of the forum members! If anyone has interior stove pics, I'd love to see them. I'd also like to see interior pictures of a DS Machine stove if anyone has any available.

I am in a bit of a quandry at this point... I have been going back and forth, trying to decide if the Hitzer is the route I want to go, or if maybe the DS Machine circulator would be a better option...

My stove is in the basement, and there is a floor vent situated directly above the stove. I get an impressive amount of heat thru the vent from my existing stove. I was thinking that maybe the DS circulator, with its vertical tubes, might help to direct more heat straight up and through the vent, rather than using the Hitzer's blower, and blowing the hot air all around the basement.

I have looked at many posts between the two stoves here on the forum, and it sounds like they are both very well made. Does it truely come down to personal preference?[/quote]

You betcha!!!
fastcat
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Nut/Stove Mix

Re: Hitzer 50-93 Questions

PostBy: Coalfire On: Thu May 10, 2012 6:05 am

Here is a link to the pics of my DS Pictures of your stove


Eric
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 96K btu Circulator
Coal Size/Type: Nut

Re: Hitzer 50-93 Questions

PostBy: rberq On: Thu May 10, 2012 7:16 am

LDPosse wrote:I was thinking that maybe the DS circulator, with its vertical tubes, might help to direct more heat straight up and through the vent, rather than using the Hitzer's blower, and blowing the hot air all around the basement.

I think it will. My stove is in an ell off the corner of the living room, about six feet from the stairway going to the second floor. My Harman Mark I was angled to blow toward the living room. A few weeks ago I swapped out the Harman for a DS Machine circulator, and I find the DSM sends significantly more heat up the stairway. Yours, being in the cellar, must have a cold air return, so how warm your cellar gets probably depends in part on how close the cold air return is to the stove.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 1300
Coal Size/Type: Nut -- Kimmel/Blaschak/Reading
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Re: Hitzer 50-93 Questions

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Thu May 10, 2012 11:40 pm

DSM if it is in the basement...
Mine is set with a large grate above...
No fans even temps...
CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: Hitzer 50-93 Questions

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri May 11, 2012 5:25 am

Come on CC. That's way to simplistic. ;)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: Hitzer 50-93 Questions

PostBy: LDPosse On: Mon May 14, 2012 4:51 pm

I took a short drive down to Lancaster on Saturday and visited the folks at DS Machine. They were very friendly, and showed me the stoves inside and out. I was impressed by the workmanship of these stoves. They recommended the DS-1500 circulator, based on my square footage and the layout of the house. They also said the 2011-2012 prices will remain in place until July 20, so I have a little time yet to make my decision. It looks like the DS is alot of stove for the money.
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Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine, Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1500, Heatrola

Re: Hitzer 50-93 Questions

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Mon May 14, 2012 5:18 pm

Take a short drive over to Berwick nothing beats the LL AnthraKing 110K stoker for heat transfer in my applications. Efficiency and technology. The looks? well they ALL look ugly so put the stokers in the basement and design the airflow properly. The Hitzer with a gold door is kinda cute.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93,
Baseburners & Antiques: Invader 2 Wings Best, Glenwood #8 + Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: Hitzer 50-93 Questions

PostBy: LDPosse On: Tue May 15, 2012 3:52 pm

coalnewbie wrote:Take a short drive over to Berwick nothing beats the LL AnthraKing 110K stoker for heat transfer in my applications. Efficiency and technology. The looks? well they ALL look ugly so put the stokers in the basement and design the airflow properly. The Hitzer with a gold door is kinda cute.


The LL Anthraking looks like a nice setup, but I am looking for something that is not electric powered. The DS and Hitzer stoves seem like the best things going for convenience and long burn times without electric.
LDPosse
 
Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine, Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1500, Heatrola

Re: Hitzer 50-93 Questions

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Wed May 16, 2012 6:49 am

Posse, I hear ya. We seldom had power problems until the brand new transmission mine was put in and now we go down regularly :wtf: (the problem is elsewhere Sir!) - PIA. Found a cheap Hitzer 50-93 and l am installing this summer as an emergency measure. I love the electric stoves but I feel I am forced to put in back up measures as well.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93,
Baseburners & Antiques: Invader 2 Wings Best, Glenwood #8 + Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

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