Considering a small coal stove

Considering a small coal stove

PostBy: Vampiro On: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:08 pm

Hi,

Well, the warm weather is here and it is time to do renovation work. I am planning to add a small coal stove to a 520+ sq ft area. I was looking around at some small stoves. I'm looking at a Harmon MK 1, Buck stove model 24, and a small chubby coal stove. I really like the looks of the small Chubby coal stove. I'd like to hear what any owners of these stoves have to say. What are the pro's and cons of the stoves? Does anyone know the dimensions of the small chubby stove? What size flue does it utilize? Thanks all.
Vampiro
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson S260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: #45 BAD HWH
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mk1
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite, Pea Coal
Other Heating: POS gas boiler

Re: Considering a small coal stove

PostBy: whistlenut On: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:59 pm

6" flue on the Chubby...I'll measure the size in the AM for you. I also like the Mark 1, actually all the mark series. Oh, 6" on the Mark 1 also. You might find a small Russo, too. Great stoves. Gibraltar also. Remember, you can down-fire the hand feds this time of year by 'adjusting the coal siz'e you choose to burn. 80 here today again, but 45 on Friday...cool nights......It Is Not Over Yet, I don't give a dam what Al ( I invented the internet) Gore has or does say.
Don't forget that stokers can be slowed enough to be manageable this time of year, also. :idea:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ&VanWert
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska-4,Keystoker-2,
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska,Gibraltor,Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Van Wert, NYer's, Ford,Jensen.
Coal Size/Type: Rice,Buck,Pea,Nut&Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB

Re: Considering a small coal stove

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:35 pm

My Keystoker 90 has the ability to almost become comatose. Right now it has a tiny fire, the baro is closed compleatly, and the stove is merely waiting for some cold weather. I never would of been able to do this with the old hand fed Buderus. The Coal-trol has everything on low idle. This weekend cooler temps will be here, and the Keystoker will be ready.
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Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Buderus Oil Boiler 3115-34
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Re: Considering a small coal stove

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:23 pm

For the size space a chubby jr. might work just fine for you. A Buck 24 will blow you out of that sized space. I'd go chubby, or maybe a small cylinder stove like my Star Herald (10" firepot). At the moment, the Herald is heating my whole house and took care of the better half all winter of 2500 sq ft. I'm in Maine on the coast and while it was a relatively mild winter we still have some below zero and single digit weeks. So even it might be a bit much. I'd say you are on track with the Jr.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Modern Oak 116 & Glenwood 208 C Range

Re: Considering a small coal stove

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:28 pm

I recently retired my Mk I for a Mk II and honestly like the Mk I better. Hopefully just a learning curve thing. :)

If you are in the area, I might have a deal on a Mk I for you. :)

I have a Chubby Sr that needs a little love. Hopefully I can get that up and running this summer to try in the fall.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mk II
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Nut, Pea
Other Heating: Dino juice

Re: Considering a small coal stove

PostBy: PC 12-47E On: Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:39 pm

Take a look at used Jotul 507's. The 507 will coast along at 225*F spring and fall only tending the stove every 24 hours. For the cold months the 507 will burn at 600*++ for 12 hours without tending the fire.
Cast iron and a very deep fire pot adds up to one of the top two or three small Anthracite coal stoves.

Eddie
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Re: Considering a small coal stove

PostBy: Vampiro On: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:31 pm

whistlenut wrote:6" flue on the Chubby...I'll measure the size in the AM for you. I also like the Mark 1, actually all the mark series. Oh, 6" on the Mark 1 also. You might find a small Russo, too. Great stoves. Gibraltar also. Remember, you can down-fire the hand feds this time of year by 'adjusting the coal siz'e you choose to burn. 80 here today again, but 45 on Friday...cool nights......It Is Not Over Yet, I don't give a dam what Al ( I invented the internet) Gore has or does say.
Don't forget that stokers can be slowed enough to be manageable this time of year, also. :idea:


Thanks for the info. I have leftover 6" Stainless pipe that I could use. Anyone ever run a length of stainless flue pipe and enclose it in a chimney chase? Seems a less expensive means than an all brick chimney. If I wind up installing a chimney chase, I might as well put a stove in the living room as well. I guess it will be between a chubby Jr. and a mk 1 for now.

As to the weather. Remember the El Nino storms of 1997-98? We started to get warmer weather after those events. In 96 there was snow galore, to even include the blizzard of 96. After El Nino, we started getting warmer weather for quite a while. Until recently things were getting back to normal, as the last 3 years we had steadily increasing accumulations of snow, and steadily decreasing winter temperatures. Recently, we have had some weather events. Notice, after the tsunami in Japan, the weather patterns did change. When storms and extreme events like this happen, they alter the oceans undercurrent (along with trade winds across the tropics) and so on. If these events happen with a change in weather that occurs afterwards, it can be believed this is what the causation of the following changing weather that seems to follow these events. If we stopped the combustion of fuels, the reduction in CO2 would be minute compared to what is in the atmosphere. I believe nature has far more an effect on the weather than man ever could have. Just about everyone wants clean water, air and so on. However, promoting faulty science to include altering data, excluding opposing theories from so called peer reviewed studies, locating temperature recording devices near devices that throw off heat (Air conditioners and the likes), on blacktop and in other artificial hot spots...do much to discredit the proposed man made global warming theory. On top of that, created was a grandiose scam of cap and trade which was almost passed.

Thanks for all the help everyone.
Vampiro
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson S260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: #45 BAD HWH
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mk1
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite, Pea Coal
Other Heating: POS gas boiler

Re: Considering a small coal stove

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:53 pm

Don't forget your HITZER 30-95
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: Considering a small coal stove

PostBy: wsherrick On: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:03 pm

Here is a very good stove for a small space. These stoves with indirect back pipes are very easy to control from low to high temperature and use less than half the coal to get the same heat output as a new, direct draft box stove. Not to mention that they are very pretty to look at. This is a Crawford Treasure.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: None
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: None
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: None
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: None
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: None
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
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Re: Considering a small coal stove

PostBy: nortcan On: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:29 pm

Same as William. These small antique stoves are very efficient and so easy to controll. You can get high heat output and very low one. I get one ( not the same but a small base burner) in a 10 X 16 small living room and love it.
If I were near you I would sell you my Vigll, so you would have 2 stoves in the same unit = one very small with a very small to medium heat output and one other with a higher heat capacity.
The only one reason I will sell that stove is because I got ""The Antique Contamination"" from one member of the present forum. I don't write his name in respect for him :lol:
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Re: Considering a small coal stove

PostBy: Vampiro On: Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:11 pm

wsherrick wrote:Here is a very good stove for a small space. These stoves with indirect back pipes are very easy to control from low to high temperature and use less than half the coal to get the same heat output as a new, direct draft box stove. Not to mention that they are very pretty to look at. This is a Crawford Treasure.



That stove is amazing looking. I see there are even two foot warmers. Though my big feet may soak up all the heat :funny: . Damn, now it looks like it's a choice between 3 stove's now. At least I have the spring and summer to make a decision. Is that a smaller door above the ash door? Do you have some more pictures of that stove? Thanks for the info
Vampiro
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson S260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: #45 BAD HWH
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mk1
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite, Pea Coal
Other Heating: POS gas boiler

Re: Considering a small coal stove

PostBy: wsherrick On: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:59 pm

This stove is for sale at a good price. Send me a PM for the contact info.
wsherrick
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: None
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: None
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: None
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: None
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: None
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

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