Hearth remodel help

Hearth remodel help

PostBy: tcalo On: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:14 am

Finally had a chance to trade my Chubby in for an updated model. Figured this would be the perfect time to remodel the room. Hoping someone has some helpful ideas. Since the room is a concrete slab I was thinking about just laying slate tile on the floor. Can't figure out what to do about a heat shield for the walls? I now have large pieces of slate behind the stove. Problem is the right side sits in front of the patio door and when we open the curtains we have to bunch them up behind the slate wall. Not a big deal but an eye sore! I was considering moving the stove out further from the wall but don't care for the looks of it. The room is small so by moving the stove out it would really limit our options for the room. I have a straight run on my flue out the roof, trying to avoid putting bends in it! I know probably not the most ideal spot to install a coal stove, but it was already in place when we purchased the house. Just looking for some ideas.
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Re: Hearth remodel help

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:05 am

Could you put a single curtain on a rod coming from the other side? Then you wouldn't have so much curtain behind the heat shield when the curtain is closed and none when it's open. That may look less crowded. Lisa
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Re: Hearth remodel help

PostBy: tcalo On: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:21 am

Unfortunately there is a support in the middle of the curtain rod so I am unable to push the curtains all the way across. I am in need of a new patio door. We are contemplating purchasing a door with built in blinds which would eliminate the need for curtains. We do like the look of the curtains though. Gives the room a warm feeling...not like it's warm enough already with the stove :lol:

Probably should have searched this thread before posting this topic: Pictures of your stove :doh: Not many stoves stuck in a corner though!
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Re: Hearth remodel help

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:17 am

Why don't you cut the slate wall that comes out too far and close off the ends?

You don't need a wet saw, though it would keep the dust down but you could use a circular saw with a diamond blade. If you can move the slate outside to cut it'd be even better. Just make sure you wear a dust mask and eye protection.
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Re: Hearth remodel help

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:22 am

Get a different curtain rod (bigger diameter) & different curtain hoops/ sliders or whatever they're called to eliminate the middle support. Or just use the old Freetown method & just nail a sheet over the windows. :clap: toothy Corner installs are fine.
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Re: Hearth remodel help

PostBy: nortcan On: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:18 pm

Hi tcalo. Just a suggestion.
You could change the curtain with a double horizontal metallic blind. That way you can open the right or left or both sides when you want to. Plus it would be safer to have metallic blind located so close to the store and stove pipe. I include a photo showing what I try to say. The sliding door is at the right side of the stove.
fred's idea of a stronger pole is a very good idea.
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Re: Hearth remodel help

PostBy: tcalo On: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:46 am

OK, I think we've figured out how to remodel our hearth. Since we are in need of new patio doors we've decided to install french doors with built in blinds which would eliminate the need for curtains. I plan on laying new stone on the floor, probably blue stone. Since the room is on a concrete slab the stone should be sufficient. I plan on installing cement board behind the stove from floor to ceiling and cover it with stone. I plan on using metal studs for spacing behind the cement board and leaving a gap on the top and bottom of the heat shield for airflow. Since I plan on starting the cement board 1" above the radiator does anyone think the 1" gap between the radiator and heat shield would allow enough hot air to penetrate the wall behind the heat shield to the point of damage? I believe the air temperature generated from the stove at this height is safe, it is still well below the firepot height! Any suggestions?
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Re: Hearth remodel help

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:20 pm

1" is pretty sop. I have 1" with ceramic fence insulators & cement board. I just went 3' height X 5'with my Hitzer 50-93. No problem code or safety wise. But yes, your plan will work fine. ;)
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Re: Hearth remodel help

PostBy: grizzly2 On: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:06 am

tcalo,

I can empathize with your situation. So often coal or wood stoves are added to rooms that were not originaly designed to have a free standing stove in them.

I can see making a small compromise to avoid major construction expenses, but in the long run I recommend looking at the room the stove is to be installed in as a blank floorplan. Don't be influenced by where someone else had their stove. Since you are going to remodel the room anyway, this approach is even more practical for you than for someone who is just adding a stove and doesn't want to do any other work to the room.

I don't ever recall being sorry that I spent the time labor and money to do something right or just the way I wanted it done. I have had quite a few regrets when I did make the "git 'er done" quick kind of decission.

Without views and dimentions of your entire stove room I can't make specific recommendations for your stove placement or installation. Please don't take offence but I will be blunt- I can't help but believe that your current hearth location is about as poor a spot as it can be.

Your stove is in front of your door, closer to your window than convienience appearance or safety would dictate and the stove pipe requires an offset. Comming thru your roof that close to the eaves means that you have a lot of exposed chimney pipe outdoors getting cold, and perhaps looking not so good, instead of single wall stove pipe inside radiating additional heat into the room and saving money on the pipe itself (cost of single wall vs. double wall stainless).

Look at your room as though it had never had a stove in it. Where would you put the stove if you were installing one for the first time? Remember windows and doors can be moved. Do the job the very best way you can now and the cost and labor will soon be forgotten and the installation will long be enjoyed. :)


Sighned;
An old guy who used to cut corners and now at least tries to do the job right.
Grizz
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