Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

PostBy: lsayre On: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:59 am

The establishment Republicans hate for the Tea Party is second only to their hate for Ron Paul. Why on earth does the Tea party insist that a century and a half old and corrupt organization can be transformed from within? When the Republicans came along they did not try to work within the Whig party, but rather they started anew and soon eliminated the Whigs. When Martin Luther decided that the Roman Catholic Church was corrupt and leading its people astray he did not decide to reform it from within, but rather he separated from it. When this nation was founded it did not try to reform from within. History is replete with such separations to achieve a new goal, and the level of success in reforming mass movements from within is totally nil.
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Re: Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:34 am

Because the Tea Party, as it exists today doesn't want to "change" the republican party. It is comprised of republicans looking for a place to sit until it is their turn to screw the country.
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Re: Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:55 am

The best thing John McCain ever did was nominate Sarah Palin.

Funny how a liberal Republican could breathe life into Conservatism. 8-)
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Re: Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

PostBy: lsayre On: Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:56 pm

This rather lengthy but extremely well thought out article defines the type of person who becomes a Republican or a Democrat candidate for office quite well. It is well worth taking the time to read it all:

http://www.321gold.com/editorials/casey ... 912.html?b
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Re: Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

PostBy: cokehead On: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:05 pm

I believe the train of thought in the Tea Party was they thought they could infiltrate and control or at least heavily influence the platform of the republican party. They had some success in Maine in that regard. The bottom line is starting a new party, getting on ballots, and getting the sheeple to pay attention to issues instead of party affiliation is near impossible. I consider myself a reformed republican at this point. As soon as the primary in CT is over I am going independent or Libertarian. I've lost hope that this country will "see the light" before we have a complete economic collapse and a de facto fascist dictatorship. Frankly I think the die is cast and in the future we will look back as this time as the good old days.
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Re: Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

PostBy: cokehead On: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:14 pm

Just read the article Isayre posted a link to. SPOT ON!
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Re: Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

PostBy: lsayre On: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:33 pm

When I mentioned that our nation did not try to reform things from within, I failed to mention that it actually happened twice. First we broke away from England rather than work to reform from within, and then fully eight years later we completely broke away from our own new Government and made another new one, when we abandoned the original Founders government system known as the "Articles Of Confederation" and replaced it with the current 'Constitution'.

I'm amazed at just how little of history is taught about our first government under the Articles Of Confederation. After all, the process of the ratification of the Articles began in 1777 and they were finally fully ratified and implemented by all 13 Colonies in 1781. The Constitution and the present United States that it created did not come about until 1789.
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Re: Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

PostBy: plumb-r On: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:10 am

The Tea Party is alot closer to a Rep. than Dem. Admit it alot of Tea Party followers used to be Rep.. I to, almost wanted to go that way but felt that all it did in the big picture was split the vote. We are never all going to get the person we really want in office. I look at it as who really scares me the most. I vote for the person who scares me the least. Ron Paul is to extreme,lets face it he would be hard pressed to get anything done in office. He would have to somehow get the senate and the house to go along with him and that's just to big a stretch. Some of the mans ideas scare me and that checks him off the list. :o
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Re: Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:13 am

You & me both plumb-r. Good post my friend.
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Re: Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:34 am

plumb-r wrote:The Tea Party is alot closer to a Rep. than Dem. Admit it alot of Tea Party followers used to be Rep.. I to, almost wanted to go that way but felt that all it did in the big picture was split the vote. We are never all going to get the person we really want in office. I look at it as who really scares me the most. I vote for the person who scares me the least. Ron Paul is to extreme,lets face it he would be hard pressed to get anything done in office. He would have to somehow get the senate and the house to go along with him and that's just to big a stretch. Some of the mans ideas scare me and that checks him off the list. :o


At 120% debt to GDP, isn't it time to do something "extreme"?

You're scared because you have been told to be scared. Do the research and think about it.

What's Romney going to do that's different than Obama or Bush?
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Re: Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:47 am

The Koch Bros & others already had most of the Rep. Party in their pockets but they were moving too slow so they started a T Party to step it up a bit, the time was right America had hit a new low.
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Re: Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:38 am

samhill wrote:The Koch Bros & others already had most of the Rep. Party in their pockets but they were moving too slow so they started a T Party to step it up a bit, the time was right America had hit a new low.


Wrong. Ron Paul inspired the Tea Party. The republicans hijacked it after that.

But are the Koch Bros. really any different than Soros?

You act like there is a difference between the R's and the D's.
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Re: Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:43 am

Nope Jpete, not much difference just where they invested the most time & money. I disagree with the Paul/T-Party connection but to each their own, I've never seen any proof or for that matter heard that claimed before.
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Re: Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:30 pm

samhill wrote:Nope Jpete, not much difference just where they invested the most time & money. I disagree with the Paul/T-Party connection but to each their own, I've never seen any proof or for that matter heard that claimed before.


There was a thread here perhaps 4 months or so ago that showed where the first Tea Party meetings were held by the Libertarian Party.
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Re: Why did the Tea Party allign itself with the Republicans?

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:00 pm

But that was the Tea Party of old(not even sure if they were called Tea Party then) before the big financial boost bought them out, why do you think he gets so little support from the T-Party?
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