A SUNNY SIDE ?

Re: A SUNNY SIDE ?

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:13 pm

Hi, here are some details showing the gasses path to the base burner mode.
Photo 1 = the right path/pipe going down to the base
Photo 2 = the left path/pipe returning from the base
Photo 3 = the 2 pipes at the back
Photo 4 = the ash pit at the center,gasses arrive from the left "bowl" go to left side, make a U turn to the right at the back, arrive to the right side of the base and make an other U turn to the left and go up to the exit.
photo 5 = an other view of the base path.
Very simple :roll:
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: A SUNNY SIDE ?

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:20 am

That stove is super neat. It seems they crammed a lot of radiating surface in a compact area. Are you going to use the double heater portion to send heat upstairs?
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Re: A SUNNY SIDE ?

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:45 am

Really Nice Pierre! It's coming along beautifully. I will soon be starting a post myself with a "new" stove I'm restoring to replace the Herald this winter. Keep up the great work.
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Re: A SUNNY SIDE ?

PostBy: nortcan On: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:14 pm

wsherrick wrote:That stove is super neat. It seems they crammed a lot of radiating surface in a compact area. Are you going to use the double heater portion to send heat upstairs?


Thanks William.
The path in base burning mode is about 8 F. long. For a 1874 stove, I see a lot of good ideas in it and discover many secrets corners, just hope that work efficiently. The convection systems are also well imaginated and I will come back with that portion later.
Because the heater will be in a faux-foyer having a warm air return ducting going downstairs to a blower cage, then warm air is send to the 3 levels, I will not need to connect the double heater syst.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: A SUNNY SIDE ?

PostBy: nortcan On: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:15 pm

SteveZee wrote:Really Nice Pierre! It's coming along beautifully. I will soon be starting a post myself with a "new" stove I'm restoring to replace the Herald this winter. Keep up the great work.


Thanks, hope to see yours soon :shock:
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: A SUNNY SIDE ?

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:52 am

And you once thought the, "long path," was thought of by Vermont Castings!!! Now you know better.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: A SUNNY SIDE ?

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:44 am

wsherrick wrote:And you once thought the, "long path," was thought of by Vermont Castings!!! Now you know better.


True for me! You can always learn from history ...
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Re: A SUNNY SIDE ?

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:06 am

wsherrick wrote:And you once thought the, "long path," was thought of by Vermont Castings!!! Now you know better.


Good one Will, 1 for you :) Plus when I study all the ingenious things found in these antique stoves, I can hardly beleive that the ""new"" models still as they are actually :?: Even if the heaters were less popular than standing stoves, they took time to make them the best they could, these :idea: guys must never be forget.
An other thing I saw on the dis-assembly job is that: again you were right on about the dust damper missing in the Sunnyside. You told me to look for some internal guides for the sliding damper and I effectively saw it. So I will make one on the re-assembly job.
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Re: A SUNNY SIDE ?

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:22 am

VigIIPeaBurner wrote:
wsherrick wrote:And you once thought the, "long path," was thought of by Vermont Castings!!! Now you know better.


True for me! You can always learn from history ...

Hi VigllPB,
I think that V.C. is ahead of many other ones in the coal stove product but doesn't invest anymore on these stoves. For their new wood stoves, it's an other story...
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: A SUNNY SIDE ?

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:50 am

nortcan wrote:
VigIIPeaBurner wrote:
wsherrick wrote:And you once thought the, "long path," was thought of by Vermont Castings!!! Now you know better.


True for me! You can always learn from history ...

Hi VigllPB,
I think that V.C. is ahead of many other ones in the coal stove product but doesn't invest anymore on these stoves. For their new wood stoves, it's an other story...


The truth you state about VC only paying attention to wood burning stoves is a big shame. I think the only reason it's a fact, IMHO, is because they are forced to make products that comply with current federal air quality regulations so their stoves may be sold in the US. Neglecting to improve on their coal stove options might be a matter of having to direct most of their improvement resources to wood. I'm willing to give them that way out but it doesn't mean we're happy about it. We're very fortunate that there are those small companies out there rescuing the old high performance coal stoves from the time period where improving on them was a matter of staying in business.
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Re: A SUNNY SIDE ?

PostBy: nortcan On: Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:15 pm

Hi.
Like I already said, the grate was probably made for stove size ant, so I decided to get the hole smaller so it could burn nut size. That grate is a new re-casted one and is made heavy-duty so wanted to keep it and try it with some modifs. And at the same time the grate will be a little more agressive :?: I hope so :!:
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Re: A SUNNY SIDE ?

PostBy: franco b On: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:00 pm

As always, cleverly done.
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Re: A SUNNY SIDE ?

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:54 am

I wonder if the stove will burn nut size coal properly with the 4 inch flue collar.
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Re: A SUNNY SIDE ?

PostBy: nortcan On: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:39 am

franco b wrote:As always, cleverly done.


Thanks Franco, I hope to be ready for the coming soon cold time :lol:
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
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Re: A SUNNY SIDE ?

PostBy: nortcan On: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:52 am

carlherrnstein wrote:I wonder if the stove will burn nut size coal properly with the 4 inch flue collar.


Hum, I hope so ;)
But if I compare to other antique stoves, base burner in particular, they work with the MPD almost completly closed, so they don't ask for so much draft and the Sunnyside has an internal damper so it was made to burn with a low draft, even if it was made for sove size, soooooooooooo :?: :?: Anyways, I could let the int. damper a little more open :?:
I don't know if I need a MPD in the stove pipe when havind the internal damper?
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