Fresh Air Intake

Fresh Air Intake

PostBy: spc On: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:22 pm

Do they make a fresh air intake that bolt to the combustion blower of my LL pioneer? Thanks.
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Re: Fresh Air Intake

PostBy: gambler On: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:00 pm

I used a 3 inch galvanized starter collar on my pioneer. You can buy them at most hardware stores and they only cost a couple of bucks.
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Re: Fresh Air Intake

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:16 pm

Then just run a piece of 3-4" flexible Dryer vent (or equal) to an outside source.
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Re: Fresh Air Intake

PostBy: spc On: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:19 pm

gambler wrote:I used a 3 inch galvanized starter collar on my pioneer. You can buy them at most hardware stores and they only cost a couple of bucks.

Do you bend the tabs in behind the blower plate or out over the plate? I also read the pipe can condensate & create a water puddle on the floor, is this true? Thanks.
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Re: Fresh Air Intake

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:23 am

It doesn't have to connect, it can end near the units draft intake. Even a few inch gap will feed it the fresh air. Not connecting it will have a small loss as excess air will enter the room. I don't think you will see any condensation, that is when warm air meets a cold surface, not cold air on a warm surface (toilet tank in the summer).
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Re: Fresh Air Intake

PostBy: mozz On: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:37 am

Having done just that on my Pioneer LL, had to take a picture to show. Mine is about 1-2" away from the intake and you can feel it draw the air in. There is no cold air condensation i can see.
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Re: Fresh Air Intake

PostBy: spc On: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:09 pm

Thanks guys, A pic is worth a 1000 words. Mozz whats that cord that runs along the side of the stove going towards the front?
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Re: Fresh Air Intake

PostBy: Jerry & Karen On: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:26 pm

Mozz,
Great job on the intake.
Jer
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Re: Fresh Air Intake

PostBy: spc On: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:03 pm

Will a fresh air intake reduce stack temp?
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Re: Fresh Air Intake

PostBy: Jerry & Karen On: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:09 pm

Steve,
You will not see a difference in temps. just less air being drawn out of your house.
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Re: Fresh Air Intake

PostBy: gambler On: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:06 pm

If you are going to bring the fresh air pipe that close to the blower why not just attach it to the blower and use 100% outside air.
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Re: Fresh Air Intake

PostBy: mozz On: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:19 pm

gambler wrote:If you are going to bring the fresh air pipe that close to the blower why not just attach it to the blower and use 100% outside air.

The reason i didn't attach it directly to the blower was: 1. Much easier not to hook up direct, would have to drill holes or make some kind of adapter for the combustion blower intake. 2. Seems to work fine as it is, there is quite a draw so that tells me it's working good. 3. Stove is brand new in warranty so didn't want to mess with it. 4. Easy to disconnect the entire intake to get to the motor to oil it and in the spring i plan on pulling the stove out a few feet to to clean and oil for it's summer hibernation. The reason i put the air intake in the first place was reading about it and it made sense that the house would be under a slight vacuum without it. My 1925 house does have lots of places for cold air to come in, didn't want it drawn in any more. I already have some vacuum as i am using a Panasonic 8" duct 70cfm fan in the bathroom to keep the moisture down. I was near the cellar door and i felt the cold air getting pulled in the kitchen under the door. To the other poster, that wire running out of the side is the fume switch, will shut the entire stove down if i lose my power veter for some reason.
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Re: Fresh Air Intake

PostBy: jrn8265 On: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:48 pm

Will a fresh air intake increase the draft or negative pressure in my stove?
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Re: Fresh Air Intake

PostBy: WNY On: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:28 pm

Shouldn't change it too much, but always check it with a draft gauge.
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Re: Fresh Air Intake

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:34 pm

mozz wrote:The reason i didn't attach it directly to the blower was: 1. Much easier not to hook up direct, would have to drill holes or make some kind of adapter for the combustion blower intake. 2. Seems to work fine as it is, there is quite a draw so that tells me it's working good. 3. Stove is brand new in warranty so didn't want to mess with it.



Foil tape would work fine & be easy to disconnect.
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