Let 'Em All In Yayy

Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:27 am

But farmer Joe is breaking the law & making more profit so farmer Fred instead of policing his own profession decides to break the law as well for more profit. But the real point is as a migrant or seasonal worker they don't have to pay minimum wage, I never got it picking grapes or working in a amusement park, Americans are now way too good for manual labor (or so they believe) rather than making the best of it until something better comes along they would rather do nothing & cry about it. Wasn't much crying going on while the illegals were out on the farms but now they are everywhere & times are bad so Americans are saying an American (but not me) should be doing that job. And they are right they should have been all along but the Gov. (entire Gov.) would rather pay the slugs welfare because they vote.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:22 pm

samhill wrote:I don't think Americans would be too happy to foot the bill to have an officer every few hundred yards along our borders.


But we're footing the bill to guard the 38th parallel go figure. Nobody gets across that border.

samhill wrote:But farmer Joe is breaking the law & making more profit so farmer Fred instead of policing his own profession decides to break the law as well for more profit. But the real point is as a migrant or seasonal worker they don't have to pay minimum wage, I never got it picking grapes or working in a amusement park, Americans are now way too good for manual labor (or so they believe) rather than making the best of it until something better comes along they would rather do nothing & cry about it.



Sam, when you type the word profit does it make you wince? Consider that farmer Fred almost has to follow along if he wants to continue to compete and survive in business. I see how it goes. I personally have the luxury of having one employee, myself, and the blessing of not putting profit above all. So I have the luxury of being able to decide not to hire illegals. So I see your point in a way.
Twenty years ago they were good enough! You never saw foreigners on construction sites in the near past. Maybe it's the people that have been crippled by the left wing entitlement welfare state that don't want to work.

I could continue my paranoia and say this is all part of the NWO and UN globalist agenda to destroy us by the implementation of massive third world immigration.

I'm rambling.
Back to the topic. This latest stunt by the Fuhrer is more than blatant voter base pandering; it's part of his diabolical anti-colonial, anti-American, anti-white agenda.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:35 pm

If we didn't have a hint of Socialism in this country, we could let everyone in who wanted to come here and make it on their own. That is exactly how this country got started, and also how it became great. It is not a radical idea.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:44 pm

Dann, news flash for ya, the 38th parallel is relatively short, guarded on both sides & the War is not over. I see what your saying, America is for whites only.
As for the farmers, all businesses, hunters & anyone or any group if they would obey the law & police their own ranks everything would be fine, you blame the law rather than the law breaker unless it is to your advantage. This is an executive order that can be undone by any President, pertains to only those that fit certain criteria & your all up in arms over it but it was fine when your patron saint Reagan gave total unrestricted amnesty, so just how do you propose to get rid of them?
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:50 pm

samhill wrote:Dann, news flash for ya, the 38th parallel is relatively short, guarded on both sides & the War is not over. I see what your saying, America is for whites only.
As for the farmers, all businesses, hunters & anyone or any group if they would obey the law & police their own ranks everything would be fine, you blame the law rather than the law breaker unless it is to your advantage. This is an executive order that can be undone by any President, pertains to only those that fit certain criteria & your all up in arms over it but it was fine when your patron saint Reagan gave total unrestricted amnesty, so just how do you propose to get rid of them?


HAHAHAHAH omigod Sam try the decaf.
"Just when I thought I was out, they suck me back in!" hahhaha

Try to set aside your rigid ideology for a few seconds and consider the vast difference in the places we live. You don't see what is happening. Man you read minds better than Kreskin, except he is usually accurate. Not so much for whites only, just for LEGAL IMMIGRANTS ONLY.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:12 pm

No problem Dann, don't mean to single you out but rather than taking this to a all illegals back to what's it about, the order that Obama signed, it's a start the only one that I can recall beyond IKE & it's way too late for that. I really don't find much fault other than if he would have done nothing he would have been wrong for that. Every Pres. & candidate that I recall was going to fix the problem but none have.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:47 pm

Either enforce the law or change the damn law.

That is the greatest danger in arbitrary bureaucracy, they pick and choose the laws they like or even make up their own.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:58 pm

Sam I don't mean to single you out either. Flat out honestly, I'm scared and frightened about what's going on so rapidly in our country. So that comes out as anger and that doesn't help anybody.

We all start out with our own bias or outlook, and it seems this damn internet just amplifies it all. I couldn't watch MSNBC for more than a minute and you couldn't watch Fox for more than a minute I guess! ( Although I was incenced at David Plouff on Fox today ~ what a dou***) :lol:

I'm trying to remember the saying "Don't take anything personally'" . I forget all the time.

I grew up without a father, man I'm still carrying the heavy baggage from that.

I have people tell me not to spend so much time aggravating myself with all this political information.

I picked up a junk Murray mower, I'll be better off messing around with that if I want to keep my cool.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:17 pm

Obama on illegal immigrants

"..... that for me simply through executive order to ignore those Congressional mandates would not conform with my appropriate role as President"

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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:02 pm

Richard you know that Congress blocks everything he tries to do & even more so now in an election year, they openly said that they would do nothing to help this President. That leaves him little to no choice to try & get things done, what other alternative does he have? We as a country can only hope that if Romney should win that there is also another big turnover in the houses but with reasonable people that are willing to work for all the people, more of this my way or the highway isn't going to help.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:24 pm

It's NOT the presidents job to "get things done"

As the EXECUTIVE branch, he carries out the laws that the Congress makes.

Any EO that carries the force of law is blatantly unconstitutional.

And YES Sam, that goes for whomever holds the office.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:06 am

samhill wrote:..what other alternative does he have?


Unless he's King Obama he doesn't have an alternative, it's not his job to unilaterally make law especially when that law is in direct defiance of Congress. Certainly a President can advocate or proposes his own legislation but until it gets to his desk it's not his job to make it the law.


& even more so now in an election year,


Exactly Sam, that is what was has changed between now and when he made that speech. He knows he's in trouble and is now pandering to the Hispanic vote.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:49 am

He has made previous EOs as have most of hie predecessors, are you saying that unless a future President gets both houses that are in agreement then we can't do anything? If that's the case then as a supposedly free people we better do something before we become exactly what they were trying to escape when they formed our country. I don't think the FF could have ever envisioned a country so divided & torn apart. I know the right would like nothing better than to have the country stand still or go back down to insure what got us to this point & that's a pure shame IMHO.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:11 am

samhill wrote:He has made previous EOs as have most of hie predecessors,


Sam can you give me an example of one where there is already laws in place to govern and the order was in direct conflict of what Congress did? You really have two situations here and the more egregious breach of the separation of powers is the fact this was defeated in Congress. If the President can just go off and do what he wants to do what's the point of Congress?


are you saying that unless a future President gets both houses that are in agreement then we can't do anything?


The President has to act within the laws passed by Congress, if doesn't then he's a dictator. It's not his job to unilaterally make law especially when that law is the complete opposite of what Congress did.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:50 am

Like I had said earlier Richard, we have laws up the wazoo that we don't implement & enforce, if we were to decide to suddenly enforce the law there would be millions of people deported & by who? Where do you start & stop, do the millions that Reagan gave citizenship to get included that was a law that over shadowed another, do we take American soldiers & deport them along with doctors, engineers & many other professionals along with crop pickers? Do we get rid of the one's that own homes & businesses, pay their taxes along with the drug dealing scum? And who & how would we do all this, I think it would be much better to send all the welfare scum that contribute nothing but future generations of scum than a person that sneaks here to better themselves & hopefully become an honest American. Don't forget we are a nation of immigrants, most of whom(hopefully) came legally but their are lots that simply over stayed their education & visitation wavers & for what ever reason we never had the ability or want to locate them. That's BS they know where every head of cattle is that comes into the country but they say they can't keep track a visitor, just ask them all to voluntarily leave.
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