Let 'Em All In Yayy

Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:40 am

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/1 ... d%3D170060

What right do we have to claim to be a sovereign nation? The arrogance. Let's absorb the entire third world! Maybe we could stop when the US population hits 1 or 2 billion what do ya say! But of course by then The National Anthem will be John Lennon's "Imagine", and we'll all be disarmed and under the control of the UN so the point is moot I guess..

How does he find time to make such popular decisions what with all the partying with Sarah Jessica Parker and all the other Hollywood 1 %'ers!

By the way, I just got finished with a "shovel ready job" man that was a lot of hard honest work! I'll just send my pay directly to Banky Moon! The thought of a 32oz. Big Gulp crossed my mind after work I hope I'm not arrested for it!

I better get that Rosetta Stone and start learning Spanish.


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I just saw the President's press conference; and I was screaming expletives at the top of my lungs at the TV! A reporter interupted his glorious speech! The reporter was asking why amnesty to 800,000 ILLEGALS is more important than the millions of unemployed legal Americans!
That infuriated the furher- don't question the fairness legality of his dictates!!!
This is an executive order - no need for Congress or anything like that.
He made it out like these illegals are the finest citizens this country has ever seen and it's "The right thing to do."
I give up! We have a dictator.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: Yanche On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:35 pm

Dann,

It's not amnesty. Quoting from the official memo:

Begin Quote

This memorandum confers no substantive right, immigration status or pathway to citizenship. Only the Congress, acting through its legislative authority, can confer these rights.

End Quote

What part of criteria below do you disagree with?

Do you think these under 16 year old individuals had the intent to violate the law?

Begin Quote of the new policy

The following criteria should be satisfied before an individual is considered for an exercise of prosecutorial discretion pursuant to this memorandum:

• came to the United States under the age of sixteen;
• has continuously resided in the United States for a least five years preceding the date of this memorandum and is present in the United States on the date of this memorandum;
• is currently in school, has graduated from high school, has obtained a general education development certificate, or is an honorably discharged veteran of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States;
• has not been convicted of a felony offense, a significant misdemeanor offense, multiple misdemeanor offenses, or otherwise poses a threat to national security or public safety;
and
• is not above the age of thirty.

End Quote
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:28 pm

Obama know exactly what he's doing......and I dont like it at all.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:03 pm

Yanche wrote:Dann,

It's not amnesty. Quoting from the official memo:


What part of the memo dictates when they will be deported?
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:42 pm

There hasn't been a mass deportation since Ike so you may as well just write that out. Anyone that has served his hitch defending the country should have earned the right already IMO. Funny how there are illegals who will join 7 Americans who would run or look for some other way out. We by law have all paid to educate & in many cases feed them as well so what should we do throw them out to a country they don't even remember & my not even have family in any longer? If they meet the criteria why not, it only makes it that much easier to get rid of the ones that don't since it establishes a baseline that they all must meet. When was the last time our Gov. just randomly deported a high school kid or rejected someone from serving because they couldn't prove citizenship?
Then again we could just ask them to all voluntarily leave, that sounds like it would work.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:42 pm

Why is it a law that we educate them?

Why is it a law that the Federal government is required to provide education? Point that out in the Constitution.

More to the point, why provide one more incentive for illegals to come here?

And if it's going to be our policy welcome everyone here, can we at least save a little dough and eliminate the INS, ICE and BP for starters?
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:28 pm

Why is this our country when there were already people living here? Who had the right to give land that they didn't own?
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:29 pm

samhill wrote:Why is this our country when there were already people living here? Who had the right to give land that they didn't own?


They didn't give it. We took it.

It's terrible. But facts are facts.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: franco b On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:34 pm

samhill wrote:Why is this our country when there were already people living here? Who had the right to give land that they didn't own?

Very few if any countries are populated by their original inhabitants. It's called conquest. The Celts once had most of Europe, as well as England.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:50 pm

And I believe it was the Mongolians that had the largest area of conquest of all but what difference does it make as to the point of law? Because people are here illegally either by their own choice or by coming here as children does that mean we can what, simply deport or maybe just execute them or imprison like most other countries would or do? Would it not be kind of late now since we have allowed millions here for many decades? What other alternatives are being put on the table? Do you really believe that Americans are willing to do the work that many of these people do? Why not simply make it a strict law that no one hire an illegal, oh wait I think that's been tried & many of our politicians & job creators would be found guilty of that.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:58 pm

samhill wrote:And I believe it was the Mongolians that had the largest area of conquest of all but what difference does it make as to the point of law? Because people are here illegally either by their own choice or by coming here as children does that mean we can what, simply deport or maybe just execute them or imprison like most other countries would or do? Would it not be kind of late now since we have allowed millions here for many decades? What other alternatives are being put on the table? Do you really believe that Americans are willing to do the work that many of these people do? Why not simply make it a strict law that no one hire an illegal, oh wait I think that's been tried & many of our politicians & job creators would be found guilty of that.


Americans used to do those jobs until the government killed the system.

People hire illegals so they don't have to pay the taxes associated with employing someone which can often equal their wage. And then every time they increase the wage, the taxes go up because they are based off the wage.

Here's an idea, get government out of the contract between employee and employer and let the labor market find its own level? If these people have no guarantee of an education, job, healthcare, etc, maybe they'll decide there is no reward to the risk.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:07 pm

The United States cannot absorb the world's population. This is more camel's nose poking into our tent IMO. This is flat out pandering to the Latino vote. O made it seem like these 800,000 are all class valedictorians and war heroes. I live in crowded NJ, and I see 15 and 16 year old anchor babies with anchor babies more and more.
I know I'm paranoid and some of you left leaning guys must think I'm a horrible uncompassionate monster. But the fact is, I'm freaked out by the rapid undermining of our American culture. If I have to go to any of the dozens of sanctuary cities close by, and take pictures myself, to show you all there is no english spoken and no storefront signs in english, I'll do it.
Major leaders of european countries have declared that multiculturalism doesn't work.
My compassion is for the America I grew up in and our declining American way of life!

If I get pulled over in NJ and my windshield wipers are on, but my lights are off, I can be ticketed. What If I said, "I didn't know about that!" I would be told ignorance of the law is no excuse!

I feel sorry for the innocent young people that are caught up in this. Their parents snuck in here and popped out as many babies as is humanly possible; taking no responsibility for their actions!

I didn't know illegals could serve in the armed forces, if they serve our country, I agree that should be given consideration.

I'm afraid this is the last generation of American culture, that's why I'm so emotional about it.
I'm so frustrated I want to move to Mexico! Oh, wait, they have a strict immigration policy..
OK I'll move to New Zealand, oh wait I'm over 45 they won't accept me...
OK, I'll go to Costa Rica, oh darn, they want you to bring at least $250,000.
Ok I'll go to Canada, ahh no thanks, half of China is immigrating there due to their liberal immigration policies.


Here's the guy that was so bold as to ask a question and his explanation:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/15/video ... se-garden/
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:33 pm

My whole point is that if you don't enforce a law then what good is it. As a nation we probably have more laws than any other, immigration being a fine example, I'd be willing to bet that there are volumes of laws but how often are they enforced? Sure years ago Americans would do all kind of jobs & then they became too hard & low paying beneath them, take your pick. The slaves were brought here to do the crops in the South, Mexicans for the South & West crops, Chinese & a lot of Europeans for the railroads & factories, some legal some not. Better wages & working conditions were asked for, we fought a war & many battles for workers the bottom line is the owners want higher profits, isn't that what it's all about & what most here want, make up your minds. Guess what they are already here & multiplying, most here seem to be concerned with the Hispanics, what about the other illegals that are here from almost everywhere do you cherry-pick & say one can stay but the others have to go?
I would like to hear some solutions rather than just complaining, just like most other problems we have very few are new but very few have ever been addressed, unless you consider another law that will never be enforced. How many unemployed are running to the mega-farms for crop picking jobs?
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:44 pm

I gave you the solution.

Get government out of the way. Do away with all labor and wage laws. If there is no incentive or advantage to come, they won't come.

When the economy tanked, we saw massive self deportation.

No need to "round up" anyone or build a wall that keeps us IN as well as others OUT.

Just remove the government intervention.
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Re: Let 'Em All In Yayy

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:56 pm

OK Jpete, your out of checks, out of school & on your way as a crop picker. :shock:
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