franco b wrote:
samhill wrote:But I thought most here (cons) loved & cherished big business after all they should be held high on a pedestal as a job creator & given subsidies & tax breaks.
Wrong again Sam. Conservatives believe that government should provide a level playing field and prevent monopoly. No tax breaks or special treatment. Let the market decide what is best, not Washington. It is the arrogant ignorance of the left that has and is continuing to bankrupt the country.
I used to think I had Conservative values, I like most don't like paying taxes. I would like taxes to be as low as possible but I realise that taxes are the price we pay for having a civilization.
I believe wholeheartedly in the rule of law and that nobody, nobody should be exempt from the law.
I believe in civility, tact and restraint. All old-fashioned values.
I believe in the rights of man and of a woman
I believe that mixing faith and government brings out the worst in both and that faith is best served when it does not have to compromise as politics requires.
I believe that for one group to have a right which others do not makes it a special right.
I believe that capitalism is a fantastic tool for creating wealth but people cheat and so, we need rules
So, I used to think of myself as having conservative values. Because I considered that all of those were conservative values.
And then I grew up and I realized I was actually a liberal. Because while conservatives pay lip service to those ideas, they actively work against them in practice.
So I now believe these are neither liberal nor conservative values.
No one likes paying taxes and everyone wants them to be as low as possible - liberals are willing to pay more because they think government should provide certain services while conservatives think those services should be provided by private parties and taxes should be lower.
Both liberals and conservatives believe in the rule of law - liberals recognize that the justice system is not fair and that there are unjust laws which should be fought and the the juries should be able to use jury nullification in cases where the law is not just. Liberals also think that the drug treatment and rehabilitation should be part of our justice system. Conservatives think that the justice system is fair, that if a government makes a law it is just, and that the goal of the justice system should be punishment and retribution.
Civility, tact, and restraint are civilized traits, old fashioned or not. There are cases of politicians getting into fist fights on the floor of the House and Senate in the 1800's. Civility in politics has often been lacking. The lack of civility in current politics has more to do with the psychopaths running the right wing than the ideology of conservatives.
True liberals and true conservatives believe that religion should stay out of politics. People with power know that they can exploit religious people to believe that they should not be separate.
Liberals believe that certain groups have institutionalized rights that others have been denied for years and that government should help level the playing field for those people. Conservatives fail to see the inherent privilege that comes with being white, male, straight, Christian, etc.
Liberals believe that capitalism is a complete failure for some things (health care, for example) and therefore those things should be taken out of the capitalist system for the good of all. Conservatives think that rules block unlimited wealth and that there is nothing wrong with unlimited wealth while failing to see that the unlimited wealth tends to be gained at the expense of the majority of mankind.