Romney's "Some Towns Just Don't Count" Tour

xaos · By: **xaos** On: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:46 pm

John Nichols :

http://www.thenation.com/blog/168477/ro ... ount-tour#

Mitt Romney’s “Every Town Counts” bus tour brought the presumptive Republican presidential nominee across southern Wisconsin and into Iowa Monday and Tuesday.

But the towns didn’t count enough for him to learn their real histories and their real needs. And the tour scrupulously avoided towns where Romney’s Bain Capital continues to put the hurt on American workers.

In Janesville, Wisconsin, where a sprawling General Motors plant closed three years ago, socking the town with one of the highest unemployment rates in the region, Romney failed during his stop to discuss the plant or GM. He couldn’t exactly rip into his November opponent, Barack Obama, for not doing eneough to reopen the plant—a credible gripe—since Obama worked during his first term to save GM while Romney talked up the idea of letting the company go bankrupt.

franco b · By: **franco b** On: Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:55 pm

Your compassion is commendable. Doubtless it gives you many opportunities to practice it with your own money, rather than other peoples.

freetown fred · By: **freetown fred** On: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:48 pm

xaos, I doubt if you are listening to your own rants.

plumb-r · By: **plumb-r** On: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:22 pm

GM should have been left to go belly up. If any one of us who have a business runs it into the ground, is the President going to help save us from having to close down? I know the some people feel that they were to big to let fail. Propping it up with taxpayer money that we will never see again, and the unions just keep rolling in it. I think Romney just decided that if you can't say anything nice, just don't say anything. :mad:

Some people live in a bubble and wear blinders.

lsayre · By: **lsayre** On: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:28 pm

These sound like well rehearsed 'yes we can' bobble-head "talking points". Did you come up with them yourself, or did you copy them from some web source, and if so, would you mind sharing that source with us?

Black_And_Blue · By: **Black_And_Blue** On: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:29 pm

plumb-r wrote:GM should have been left to go belly up. If any one of us who have a business runs it into the ground, is the President going to help save us from having to close down? I know the some people feel that they were to big to let fail. Propping it up with taxpayer money that we will never see again, and the unions just keep rolling in it. I think Romney just decided that if you can't say anything nice, just don't say anything. Some people live in a bubble and wear blinders.

Re : 'Our MonEYE'

In poker it's called a TELL, a tip of the hand in demeanor etc, if you doubt it look and listen again with fresh eyes and ears :

Joe KnollenBERG

lsayre · By: **lsayre** On: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:30 pm

plumb-r wrote:GM should have been left to go belly up. If any one of us who have a business runs it into the ground, is the President going to help save us from having to close down? I know the some people feel that they were to big to let fail. Propping it up with taxpayer money that we will never see again, and the unions just keep rolling in it. I think Romney just decided that if you can't say anything nice, just don't say anything. Some people live in a bubble and wear blinders.

I agree that GM should have folded in bankruptcy. Ditto for all of the banks, etc... that got bailed out because they were too big to fail.

Black_And_Blue · By: **Black_And_Blue** On: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:37 pm

lsayre wrote:
plumb-r wrote:GM should have been left to go belly up. If any one of us who have a business runs it into the ground, is the President going to help save us from having to close down? I know the some people feel that they were to big to let fail. Propping it up with taxpayer money that we will never see again, and the unions just keep rolling in it. I think Romney just decided that if you can't say anything nice, just don't say anything. Some people live in a bubble and wear blinders.

I agree that GM should have folded in bankruptcy. Ditto for all of the banks, etc... that got bailed out because they were too big to fail.

Where do the banks get the MonEye?

lsayre · By: **lsayre** On: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:38 pm

Black_And_Blue wrote:Where do the banks get the MonEye?

From the Federal Reserve, and it should be abolished.

Black_And_Blue · By: **Black_And_Blue** On: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:39 pm

lsayre wrote:
Black_And_Blue wrote:Where do the banks get the MonEye?

From the Federal Reserve, and it should be abolished.

where does the FR get it?

lsayre · By: **lsayre** On: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:40 pm

Black_And_Blue wrote:where does the FR get it?

From thin air, backed by T-Bills also fabricated from thin air.

Black_And_Blue · By: **Black_And_Blue** On: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:42 pm

lsayre wrote:
Black_And_Blue wrote:where does the FR get it?

From thin air, backed by T-Bills also fabricated from thin air.

so why do we pay taxes if it can be printed into existence and expended directly for our benefit as members of a 'society'?

lsayre · By: **lsayre** On: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:46 pm

Black_And_Blue wrote:so why do we pay taxes if it can be printed into existence and expended directly for our benefit as members of a 'society'?

Because if Congress took that final step (essentially as Lincoln did during the Civil War when he issued Greenbacks) the jig would be up and the value of currency would eventually collapse to nothingness (as it was in the process of doing during the Civil War), since it is only of value if people have faith in it, but if everyone knew how the game was rigged, their faith would collapse and that would collapse the currency and the game would be over.

“It is well enough that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” - Henry Ford

Taxes are just smoke and mirrors to make us feel like we are accomplishing something and to perpetuate the system.

Black_And_Blue · By: **Black_And_Blue** On: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:52 pm

Congress has the authority and the responsibility to issue a currency and TAX FREE but instead we have a private consortium which extracts interest via payments.

eta : you said yourself 'they' should be abolished so?

lsayre · By: **lsayre** On: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:00 pm

Black_And_Blue wrote:Congress has the authority and the responsibility to issue a currency and TAX FREE but instead we have a private consortium which extracts interest via payments.

eta : you said yourself 'they' should be abolished so?

Congress has the authority to coin money and regulate the value thereof. It does not have the authority to force anyone to use or accept it, exclusively or otherwise. That is a matter of free will. The States on the other hand (not being persons of free will) are obligated to accept only gold and silver as currency.

There had always been independent bank notes which were totally independent of Government currency, and functioned freely along side it. You (and whomever you bartered or traded or contracted with) were once free to choose what your trust was to be placed in with regard to what you considered to be an honest store of value.

"Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity."
-- Marshall McCluhan

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