I'm gearing up

I'm gearing up

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:38 am

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/29/bo ... -promotes/

When they are confronted by an AK47 toting drug runner they are allowed to throw things. I am sending 100 tons of aged horse manure to the front. If they manage to hit the drug runner in that 100F heat the smell will have them racing back to Mexico.' Help me out here I need more smelly/heavy things to help them. How about a 2300 page copy of the Obamacare bill that is heavy and has to hurt, The pages are still crisp as that is unread too Then there is the new regional development NY plan with ten regional councils headed by the unions is also heavy and has to hurt. They have lots of spare copies as no non NY businesses have yet to ask for a copy. More ideas welcome.

Where is the outrage?????
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Re: I'm gearing up

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:05 am

This administration is on a mission to destabilize the entire world, including the very USA itself. Right is now wrong, and wrong is now right. Moral is now immoral, and immoral is now moral. Good is now bad, and bad is now good.

Banks and corporations are bailed out for being corrupt and inept.
Citizens are being forced to purchase insurance they don't want or need, and to pay for others to be insured on top of that.
The government now has the authority to detain you indefinitely without a trial if they suspect something.
You must be irradiated and groped in your private places in order to travel or go to a sporting event.
US Citizens abroad (and perhaps even at home) can now be "taken out" (being kind with words here) without a trial to first establish guilt or terrorist ties.
Nations in the middle east that were relatively westernized are being intentionally toppled and then intentionally replaced by radical extremists.
Weapons are being given to drug running cartels.
Law enforcement is being told to look the other way (or run and hide).
FEMA Camps are being constructed across the USA that appear in every way to look just like concentration camps.

Personally, I can't imagine anyone voting this administration (or another one effectively just like it) back into office. Yet, I see now that this is exactly what we are about to do.

I'm beginning to wonder if the Anti-Christ is working his evil here.
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Re: I'm gearing up

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:09 am

Isayre, prehaps you should check your time line on most if not all the things in your post.
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Re: I'm gearing up

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:28 am

I see both major political parties as players in the same rigged game. By forever duping us mere citizens into believing that they offer us true choices, they are both working hard to methodically take us down the path of Fascism, and when that proves to not work, they will then take us down the joint paths of Socialism and Communism.

I do see your point that the Patriot Act and Homeland Security are products of the Republicans, but both have been embraced and vastly expanded in scope, authority, and power by the Democrats (though the same would assuredly have occurred under the Republicans), so both obviously see things exactly the same way.

In my list above I forgot to include that:

Your local police force is being fully militarized.
Property searches and seizures now occur without warrants, and often via 2 AM raids where your door is knocked down and your family is terrorized at gunpoint, and your barking dog is executed.
GMO foods are not advertised as such by order of the Government
Vaccinations are forced on those who do not wish them upon themselves or their children
Watch what you put in your childs school lunchbox, as the food police may declare you to be poisoning them with malnutritious food.
Don't give your child an aspirin to take at school, as if you do you will be practicing medicine without a license and the law will come down hard upon you (not to mention that your child will be expelled)
If your child has cancer and you do not irradiate and chemically poison your own child to death you will go to prison
Most of the world now drives super efficient diesel cars, but close to none of them are available here, purportedly because they are dirty
Coal is being ostracized, and "under my plan, electricity costs must necessarily skyrocket"
Vast oil fields are not being drilled because they have caribou or exotic mice or rare birds or whatever...
You will be forced to take the medical treatment the government approves of, or perhaps you will be denied treatment.
etc....

Is this what our soldiers past and present have fought for? Are any of these listed things the proper domain of a land that thinks itself to be "free", and if so, please define such a freedom.
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Re: I'm gearing up

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:05 am

It sounds like the freedom you want we have never had but do you really think a few Corp.s running how ever they want simply because they are free to do so would make things better? You should take into account that we were never totally free but highly so & many of the laws, rules & regulations were put in place for good reason. If everyone would take responsibility for their actions there would be no need for Gov. intrusion,it's unfortunate that has never been the case.
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Re: I'm gearing up

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:08 am

JP Morgan once said that "A man always has two reasons for everything, a good reason, and the real reason."

Do you imagine that the good reasons as to why our government passes many tens of thousands of pages of draconian laws should similarly have such ulterior motives?
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Re: I'm gearing up

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:10 am

samhill wrote:It sounds like the freedom you want we have never had ...


Go back to when you were young, and none of the things on my list(s) existed. Are we more free today than we were then, and before then...? Do we deserve freedom, or do we require control (for our own good, and for the good of the children)? What does it mean to live free?
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Re: I'm gearing up

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:07 am

Many of the things were there, there were also rivers that only carp & catfish struggled to survive in, long ago there were buffalo on the plains in such #s that man could never kill them all, even the Bald Eagle was almost wiped out. We are exporting more oil now than ever, funny there is nothing about the price of gas going down has nothing to do with Obama (which it doesn't) only when it goes up ( also which it doesn't). I guess the gulf & Alaska sound would have cleaned itself up sooner or later & the river that caught fire would eventually burn itself out. & hey who doesn't like a good old fashion depression every now & then. My local police force may be fully militarized, won't know until I get one til then it's up to me & my neighbors, we all keep an eye out for each other as people every where used to. Times change, not always for the better but they still change & the only one we can really blame in the long run can be seen in the mirror.
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Re: I'm gearing up

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:31 am

In a nation of laws, the people responsible for dumping oil in Alaska and chemicals in lake Erie would have been prosecuted and jailed.

Guess you're right Sam, some things have only existed in fantasy books.
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Re: I'm gearing up

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:58 am

I feel that a series of quotes penned variously between roughly 1930 and 1960 by author and philosopher 'Ayn Rand' are quite appropriate here. Each one has relevance, so please read them on this linked website. Her philosophy of Objectivity obviously granted her tremendous foresight, whereas the contra to Objectivity (Objectivism), that being Subjectivity (Subjectivism), apparently confounds and thereby blinds the mind to such fundamental and logical truth. Comments are welcome.

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes_by/ayn+rand
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Re: I'm gearing up

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:34 pm

Once upon a time a group of men got together and declared independence from a sovereign king to whom they were merely subjects (subjectivists). They established an objective rule of law (a Republic) under which everyone was equal, and they declared everyone to be sovereign. Their founding documents delineated primarily that which the Federal Government could NOT do (and they sealed this forever by adding the 10th Amendment). Then the Supreme Court eventually gave itself the power to review Congressional law, and somewhere along the way it also discovered a figment of its very own imagination that is known as the "commerce clause" within the Constitution. Then the people were duped into voting for Senators (who had previously been appointed by their various States Legislative bodies), and they were also given far more elective power in determining whom would be their President (the electors for which had previously likewise been appointed by the various States Legislative bodies) through voting. Then through the magic of the mainstream press the people discovered something the Founders had universally abhorred and warned against in many of their writings. They discovered something called Democracy. The rest is todays history.
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