freetown fred wrote:I logged outside of Ottawa for a couple years & no one there ever had a problem with thier Socialized medicine set up--we have just become such a spoiled society that are to stupid to see exactly what the med/pharm people have been doing to us, it saddens me incredibly. We have to have tv adds asking people not to go to emergency rooms for things like hang nails & a little pull in our backs so they can deal with actual emergencys--I've got no sympathy for the state we have gotten ourselves in. People need to grow some gonads & stop acting like a bunch of lil girls, sorry ladies,--oh by the way, they're the ones that suffer behind all this, the children that is. Talk about hidden agendas?? we all need to look in the mirror on that one. Nice post SMITTY.
freetown fred wrote:Jeff, just to call a spade a spade--whoops, that's probably not politically correct in this day & age, BUT, that just confirms the mentality of today & that I find pathetic--hence--grow some gonads---SHEEP/--no, actually that is an insult to the sheep.
As he campaigned in 1964, Johnson declared a "war on poverty." He challenged Americans to build a "Great Society" that eliminated the troubles of the poor. Johnson won a decisive victory over his archconservative Republican opponent Barry Goldwater of Arizona.
American liberalism was at high tide under President Johnson.
The Wilderness Protection Act saved 9.1 million acres of forestland from industrial development.
The Elementary and Secondary Education Act provided major funding for American public schools.
The Voting Rights Act banned literacy tests and other discriminatory methods of denying suffrage to African Americans.
Medicare was created to offset the costs of health care for the nation's elderly.
The National Endowment for the Arts and Humanities used public money to fund artists and galleries.
The Immigration Act ended discriminatory quotas based on ethnic origin.
An Omnibus Housing Act provided funds to construct low-income housing.
Congress tightened pollution controls with stronger Air and Water Quality Acts.
Standards were raised for safety in consumer products.
Conditions for becoming federally qualified include a minimum benefits package,
open enrollment and community rating. Some of the most costly restrictions were later
removed. Likewise, for selected employers (with more than 25 employees subject to
federal minimum wage requirements), the original Act mandated that those offering
health benefits must offer an HMO option if a federally qualified HMO in the local area
requested it. However, this provision was eliminated by 1995
In the aftermath of its passage, there were strong criticisms leveled at this Act
on grounds that the conditions required for federal qualification imposed costs on HMOs
that made them less competitive in the market (Mitka 1998).
In theory, the Act was intended to reduce costs by eliminating other
regulatory barriers inhibiting HMO development and by encouraging the proliferation of
what was viewed as a more cost-effective delivery system.
Ehrlichman: “Edgar Kaiser is running his Permanente deal for profit. And the reason that he can … the reason he can do it … I had Edgar Kaiser come in … talk to me about this and I went into it in some depth. All the incentives are toward less medical care, because …”
President Nixon: [Unclear.]
Ehrlichman: “… the less care they give them, the more money they make.”
President Nixon: “Fine.” [Unclear.]
Ehrlichman: [Unclear] “… and the incentives run the right way.”
President Nixon: “Not bad.”
samhill wrote:No Dann, I just knew of the emergency care thing from direct knowledge, they used to take what appeared to be uninsured people to certain hospitals even if they drove by a few others to get there.
Jpete, it 's just my opinion but I don't think most of those things under Johnson were all bad but I know my hometown had a couple of low income projects long before him. As for some of the others it seems like all these years later they want to go back in time.
samhill wrote:Once again Jpete I guess it all boils down to what one considers progress.