Poll: Is there a "right" to health care?

Seriously jpete, Addison??? Not far away, many relatives over there. I can explain the Somalian/Ellsworth connection. You see, we are all white up here, lilly white Sports Illustrated called us. So therefore we are racist. Not to mention uneducated and not very worldly. So they send in some uneducated other worldly black people from a hot continent and study the resulting explosion. I can tell you, the locals work hard, play hard, etc. but the Somalians have an edge we have lost. The last good meal they got in Africa they had to fight a lion off with a sharp stick. We just go down to Helen's in Machias and order up a fishermans platter!

Kevin

KLook wrote:Seriously jpete, Addison??? Not far away, many relatives over there.

Kevin

Yep. We have our own island. Maybe you've heard of it?

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=crowley+ ... sland&z=15

samhill wrote:Thank you for that vote of confidence Dan

That wasn't fair, I apologize.

rberq wrote: Let's see if HE offers me coffee, or just a call center job in China.

HAHAHHAHA I think you would be better off contacting Jeffrey Immelt, you know, Barry's new jobs czar. His old green jobs czar, Van Jones, had to leave in a hurry when Glen Beck outed him as a card carrying commie.

But we digress.

No problem there Dan, I just consider the source & don't put much stock in it but you got to be way smarter than what you let on to be. You were right on about the Somalians, once again wrong Pres. but there are a bunch of them, they too work cheap so your friends hire them. Or perhaps they would be good on an olympic rowing team or getting back to the NFL as wide receivers, those skinny guys run fast.
The ones along the coastlines could simply hijack yachts, it would save a lot of fuel on both ends.

Why don't we just invite the entire third world in, I don't know; is it 2 or 3 billion living in abject poverty? Sam, you have land, you won't mind if they put up a refugee camp on your place right? Do you have a spare 5 acres? I'm sure that would fit 200,000 or more it's only fair. Oh, and could you provide them with health care, yourself personally? Great! I'll call Barry and get the paperwork started. I may become homeless due to the new Obamatax, but I won't show up, I'm an American citizen so I have no rights like all the illegals that are here already threatening my livelyhood.

Oh and by the way, Michelle says that good healthcare starts with clean designer clothes, so do you mind if they use your washing machine? I'm sure your wife won't mind. It will be running 24 hrs a day though, so I hope you have a good deep well. Don't worry, the bullet train Barry promised will go right by your place on its route to Utopia, it will will drop off a lot of laundry detergent and bleach. Be sure to use the bleach, there's a lot of third world diseases they will be bringin in, and with half the doctors quitting the profession due to the healthcare takeover, you'll want to maintain sanitary conditions. Oh, can they use your bathroom, too? Barry will provide some of the shovel-ready jobs he promised to extend your septic system if needed. I think you're gonna need a 50,000 gallon septic tank. Barry will also drop off plenty of rice to feed these new voters, you'll be able to store it in the barns the Chinese Communist workers will build for the camp. don't fret, Barry will borrow a few more billion from China to pay the Chinese workers.
Oh, one more thing, do you mind if they use your kitchen? I'm sure Barry will have the green energy problem solved by next week, he hates fossil fuels so I hope you have an electric stove. Or maybe Solyndra can provide boiling water I don't know if those Solyndra panels can boil water though. If not you can just tap into your Chevy Volt.

Like I said Dan, it's still the wrong President why not clue your talking heads into that bit of info.
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2011/01/1 ... cate-here/

Oh I see by your article you are right and everyone else is wrong once again! How does it feel to always be right?

Well thanks for setting me straight once again, now I know that there is a "process" for entering into The United States. And all this time I was thinking all any foreigner had to do was crawl under a fence or float over here across the Rio Grande on a garbage bag full of bedbug ridden clothes.


Here's a link more along the subject of "Healthcare"

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07 ... matax-law/

instead of asking about the right to health care, how about the right to affordable health care insurance, since that is what the issue is really about. get your argument straight. I see that almost 2/3 the coal chuckers think that less than rich people should not have the right to medical care, or the ability to buy insurance.

If it were about "affordable" health insurance, why not use the Commerce Clause as they have for every other type of insurance and allow it to be sold nationwide to anyone and everyone?

Yes! It really is THAT simple!

So the question becomes, "Is it really about affordable health insurance?"

That's a state & Ins. Co. thing Jpete, could just be that years ago the Ins. Industry divided up the territory, not saying that is how it was just possible. As far as I know there is nothing stopping a Co. from paying the state to sell there, different areas have different problems, same for any Ins.. Your premiums are higher for certain occupations, if you smoke, pre-existing problems even parental history, that's why there are so many pages of questions.

samhill wrote:That's a state & Ins. Co. thing Jpete, could just be that years ago the Ins. Industry divided up the territory, not saying that is how it was just possible. As far as I know there is nothing stopping a Co. from paying the state to sell there, different areas have different problems, same for any Ins.. Your premiums are higher for certain occupations, if you smoke, pre-existing problems even parental history, that's why there are so many pages of questions.

But that's the point Sam. Government COULD use the Commerce Clause to avoid having insurance companies from negotiating with 50 distinct regulatory bodies for health insurance.

Does your car or home owners insurance have to do that?

The government uses the Commerce Clause to regulate everything from the water in your toilet to the alcohol in your blood, but NOT health insurance.

Why?

Because the people in our gov. make money the way it is. And it must work for the insurance co. also.

kevin

jpete wrote:why not use the Commerce Clause as they have for every other type of insurance and allow it to be sold nationwide to anyone and everyone?
Yes! It really is THAT simple!

Yes, it really is about affordable health insurance. It really is THAT simple; which is not the same as saying it is a simple undertaking.

jpete wrote:So the question becomes, "Is it really about affordable health insurance?"

The implication of that question is, that President Obama and the Democratic party have some grandiose scheme to subvert the nation. I don't give them credit for being that organized and unified. This forum seems composed of the foremost constitution scholars in the country, with anarchists and paranoid conspiracy theorists to assist them, so it amazes me that we haven't got this all figured out yet.

you da man Bob

Yep Jpete, my car & homeowners are I believe just in state, as you should know the U.S. is quite large. Just moving from the Pittsburgh area to the Erie area my rates dropped due to a lot of factors. You can get cut rate Ins. which is good for being inexpensive but I think that if you would ever need them you may just find out how good they aren't. For myself I'll stick with Erie Ins..