New Study Shows Global Cooling Since the Roman Times

I guess you wouldn't want to sum that up in a few sentences?

freetown fred wrote:I guess you wouldn't want to sum that up in a few sentences?

I can sum it up in a few words. Man made Global Warming is a Hoax. It has been proven to be a Hoax. They want your land and your money. That sums it up.

Thank you. No surprise with that.

wsherrick wrote:I can sum it up in a few words. Man made Global Warming is a Hoax. It has been proven to be a Hoax. They want your land and your money. That sums it up.

I'm fully prepared to believe somebody wants my land and money. But who is the "they" that want it in connection with man made global warming. Perhaps it is explained in the video, but an hour plus??? Could you sum up that part, too?

rberq wrote:

wsherrick wrote:I can sum it up in a few words. Man made Global Warming is a Hoax. It has been proven to be a Hoax. They want your land and your money. That sums it up.

I'm fully prepared to believe somebody wants my land and money. But who is the "they" that want it in connection with man made global warming. Perhaps it is explained in the video, but an hour plus??? Could you sum up that part, too?

The program of which the Global Warming Scam is a large part, starts with the UN and works its way all the way down to your local Government. It's called agenda 21 and has been in place since 1992.


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Please click on link above, it gives an overview of what is happening right before our eyes.

I'm not one for the conspiracy theories but there is certainly a concerted effort amongst financial institutions and other multi national conglomerates pushing this. The carbon credit schemes are like the housing bubble on crack.

Another thing I often point out is there is really only two or three nations including the US, Russia and Canada that can be energy independent if they had to rely solely on fossil fuels and have the other resources in place as well. You can't put China on that list because of the huge population of that country is going to exhaust their fossil resources over the coming decades. Certainly the leaders in European countries and others realize the dilemma they face as fossil fuel resources become scarce in the future. If they do not have an economically sustainable way to power their economy 30 or 40 years from now the US fully utilizing all it's natural resources would be an unstoppable economic powerhouse that will run them over like they never existed.

Richard S. wrote:The carbon credit schemes are like the housing bubble on crack.

And the ultimate Internet scam. I Googled "buy carbon credits online" and got 23 million hits. Lots of places I can salve my conscience for flying in a plane or driving for pleasure or burning coal, by purchasing carbon offsets. I'm going to open my own online exchange: for every $100 you send me, fifty natives deep in the Amazon jungle will walk today rather than drive their BMWs.

Richard S. wrote:I'm not one for the conspiracy theories but there is certainly a concerted effort amongst financial institutions and other multi national conglomerates pushing this. The carbon credit schemes are like the housing bubble on crack.

Another thing I often point out is there is really only two or three nations including the US, Russia and Canada that can be energy independent if they had to rely solely on fossil fuels and have the other resources in place as well. You can't put China on that list because of the huge population of that country is going to exhaust their fossil resources over the coming decades. Certainly the leaders in European countries and others realize the dilemma they face as fossil fuel resources become scarce in the future. If they do not have an economically sustainable way to power their economy 30 or 40 years from now the US fully utilizing all it's natural resources would be an unstoppable economic powerhouse that will run them over like they never existed.

You seem to be an intelligent, well reasoned man. I consider myself in that group as well. Agenda 21 is not a wild eyed conspiracy theory even though it might seem so. Look to see if your town is part of ICLEI. That is the National Program to implement Agenda 21 across this country. The link below is the ICLEI home page. You are correct. There is a concerted effort pushing this stuff.

http://www.iclei.org/

This along with all of the Cap And Trade schemes which you mentioned all are part of the same, money, land and power grabs. The vast supply of energy and resources we have is our economic ace in the hole. Yet, we have this environmental movement to hobble and destroy our energy capability, based on the complete fraud of Global Warming.

Richard S. wrote:I'm not one for the conspiracy theories but there is certainly a concerted effort amongst financial institutions and other multi national conglomerates pushing this.

Is it still a "conspiracy theory" when the United Nations posts it on their website?

http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/

Don't buy into the effort to give the word "conspiracy" a negative connotation.

If you and I get together and talk about committing a crime, we can be locked up for "conspiracy to commit XYZ". And that's not a theory!

Ever read "Julius Caesar"? How about the Bible, especially the part about the crucifixion of Jesus?

The history of the world is the history of conspiracies. They happen all the time.

lsayre wrote:I can't tell you what the weather will be like looking forward, but I did come across some interesting weather trivia. On average the warmest day of the year statistically comes one month post the longest day (longest daylight day) of the year, and on average the coldest day of the year statistically comes one month post the shortest day (shortest daylight day) of the year. I have no idea why this would be so, but apparently it is.

There is a lag in time for the coldest day after the shortest day and also the same lag between the longest day and the hottest day. The reason for this is due to heat retention in the environment. It takes time for things to cool down and then to heat up again, so the effect is a seasonal lag in temperature. So we see the worst of winter after the shortest day (1st day of winter) and the best of summer after the longest day (1st day of summer)

Why doesn't this surprise me...

"The figures, which have triggered debate among climate scientists, reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012, there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-22 ... z2CjjfHOZW

jpete wrote:

Richard S. wrote:I'm not one for the conspiracy theories but there is certainly a concerted effort amongst financial institutions and other multi national conglomerates pushing this.

Is it still a "conspiracy theory" when the United Nations posts it on their website?

http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/

Don't buy into the effort to give the word "conspiracy" a negative connotation.

If you and I get together and talk about committing a crime, we can be locked up for "conspiracy to commit XYZ". And that's not a theory!

Ever read "Julius Caesar"? How about the Bible, especially the part about the crucifixion of Jesus?

The history of the world is the history of conspiracies. They happen all the time.

Yup.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/19/house- ... -accounts/

jpete wrote:

Richard S. wrote:I'm not one for the conspiracy theories but there is certainly a concerted effort amongst financial institutions and other multi national conglomerates pushing this.

Is it still a "conspiracy theory" when the United Nations posts it on their website?
**Broken Link(s) Removed**Don't buy into the effort to give the word "conspiracy" a negative connotation.

If you and I get together and talk about committing a crime, we can be locked up for "conspiracy to commit XYZ". And that's not a theory!

Ever read "Julius Caesar"? How about the Bible, especially the part about the crucifixion of Jesus?

The history of the world is the history of conspiracies. They happen all the time.

Yes and the victor generally wrote the "history".

The facts are that this planet has spent more time in deep freeze or ice age mode than it ever has in this temperate bubble of time we were fortunante enough to have evolved in. Hate to say it, but the temparate time periods are the anomaly and the ice age is the norm. It's cyclical and it will happen again...........and again.............regqardless of whether or not we shorten or elongate that temperate period if that is even possible.

lsayre wrote:Look to the right.

Avert your eyes ... really, greenhouse gases? Water vapor is a greater greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide, by many magnitudes....yet no one has examined water vapor levels over time ~ cause they can't. So they look at what they can measure and run from there ... blindly

Until someone definitively answers whether rising levels of CO2 are a leading or trailing indicator of global warming the jury must remain in deliberation.

If the CO2 rise comes before (leads) the heat rise it is a great candidate for being a root cause of the warming.

If the CO2 rise comes after (trails) the heat rise it is merely a symptom of some other root cause(s) of the warming.