Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

Re: Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:30 pm

samhill wrote:The bottom line is $50 million has been wasted by this Congress doing what it does best & what it promised to do "NOTHING". They are only in session less than half a year & they are doing nothing but wasting time & money. Why not just realize that it was the GOP that lost & get on with the business at hand for the good of the country & All the people? That's the bottom line, they took the first oath to the constitution & that should be the only one.


So where in the Constitution does it say the government can put a gun to my head and force me to purchase a product from a private company?

Do democrats cross their fingers when saying their oath so it doesn't count?

Violating an oath is called perjury and it's an impeachable offense. Ask Slick Willy!
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Re: Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:10 am

I'll read the bill after its repealed.
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Re: Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:23 am

Hey xaos .... how much they paying you for your hit-and-run posts to stir up conservatives? Do they really think those tactics are going to get them re-elected??? I'm on to you ... :shifty:
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Re: Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:59 am

samhill wrote: Why not just realize that it was the GOP that lost ....


Considering more than half the people in this country didn;t support it when it was passed and more than half the people don't support it now I would suggest it was the American public that lost. Sam, the Democrats had a fantastic chance to really do something good, they had full control of both houses and the WH. They also had nearly the full support of the population to pass healthcare reform, instead they got fed a 2700 layer *censored* sandwich.
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Re: Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:18 am

Richard, I'll say once again for a long time neither party has ever had control, just how much have the Ins. Industry lobby spent on defeating this bill? Why do you think a "for profit" industry would do that, to lower HC costs for the people?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2 ... obamacare/
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Re: Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:46 am

samhill wrote:Richard, I'll say once again for a long time neither party has ever had control, just how much have the Ins. Industry lobby spent on defeating this bill? Why do you think a "for profit" industry would do that, to lower HC costs for the people?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2 ... obamacare/


So why do you cheer lead for a law that you know full well was bought and paid for by the insurance industry?
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Re: Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:00 am

That doesn't even deserve a reply.
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Re: Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:41 am

My workplace is too similar to how our government operates. I dont understand why "our" elected officials continue to create new programs when we already have similar things in place. Why didnt we just reform medicare and medicaid instead of a whopping new bunchya nonsense. My .02 cents worth is a mere job justification, if you arent doing something new you must not be doing anything at all. Seems as if it would be too difficult too fix what we already have in place than make something new. I wonder when they are gonna create a new "social security", you all know that this is probably the next assanine debacle thats gonna come into play once obamacare is rammed down our throat.
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Re: Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:03 am

samhill wrote:That doesn't even deserve a reply.


You mean you can't justify your blind allegiance to the democrats for doing the same thing you revile the republicans for doing?

Got it!
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Re: Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:15 am

Jpete, I'll type this even slower for you, the Ins. Industry lobbied against the bill not for it.
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Re: Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:35 am

samhill wrote:Jpete, I'll type this even slower for you, the Ins. Industry lobbied against the bill not for it.


So how does this square with your theory that money controls both parties?

The insurance companies spent the money, so according to you, this is the bill they wanted.

Or are you know saying that the democrats are somehow incorruptible?
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Re: Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

PostBy: beemerboy On: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:14 pm

Other than the mandate, what parts of the ACA do you not like? Answers like "the whole thing", repeating "the mandate" or its a "government take over of health care" which we know as false because the insurance companies still receive your premiums. just will not cut it.

Or how about "it's the largest tax increase in the nations history" Of course, less than 2% of the people in this country will be affected as it is only the people that do not have health insurance and can afford it will have to pay on the average of $75 a year.

Please be specific as to the parts of the bill that you don't like.
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Re: Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:30 pm

beemerboy wrote:Please be specific as to the parts of the bill that you don't like.


Even accredited accountants and attorneys can't answer that.

I'm not gonna look up the exact sections, I'm tired from working for a living. The precedent that I will be forced to buy a product I don't want is a start.

It's not $75 after the first year, the third year the penalty tax is more like $750.00 ~ when I pay the fine it will evaporate before Obama can give it away to deadbeats.

They granted themselves access to my bank account in there someplace.

If you sell a house there's a 3.8% dip into your pocket in there. TAX TAX TAX TAX.

They are hiring more thousands of IRS bureaucrats to implement the extortion.


Maybe you want another bureaucrat in between you and your doctor, I don't.

Doctors are resigning and retiring in droves because of this, companies that create jobs are laying off workers above the threshold of 50.

I work for myself, I choose not to buy health insurance. Maybe I'll buy it; are you gonna go out and hustle up the extra work I will need to pay for it?
I bet you have health insurance, so you can whine all you want.
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Re: Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

PostBy: lsayre On: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:35 pm

The average family spends about $6,000 annually on health care. If someone is getting health care at only $75 per year, who is paying the other $5,925?
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Re: Health Care Law Repeal Efforts By House GOP Cost Nearly $50

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:30 pm

beemerboy wrote:Other than the mandate, what parts of the ACA do you not like? Answers like "the whole thing", repeating "the mandate" or its a "government take over of health care" which we know as false because the insurance companies still receive your premiums. just will not cut it.

Or how about "it's the largest tax increase in the nations history" Of course, less than 2% of the people in this country will be affected as it is only the people that do not have health insurance and can afford it will have to pay on the average of $75 a year.

Please be specific as to the parts of the bill that you don't like.


The question is, what other thing would you like the government to FORCE you to buy from a private party? Because SCOTUS said, as long as it's a tax, Congress can make you do it.

You've just given the government permission to make you do whatever they want you to do as long as they tax you for it.

Is that really what you intended? Because your side isn't going to be in power forever. It's the devil you don't know that you have to worry about.
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