Coal bin help?

Coal bin help?

PostBy: jkabdoors On: Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:42 am

Hi everyone, I am going to build an indoor bin and my question is it ok to use P.T. lumber and not paint it. Can i use regular lumber and paint it . I am thinking about the coal being wet at time of delivery and soaking the wood. I would not like to go outside for coal in the cold winter days. Thanks for the help Jeff.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
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Re: Coal bin help?

PostBy: steamup On: Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:50 am

My opinion is use a pressure treated sill where the bin comes in contact with the floor. Everything else could be regular lumber. Unless you have a wet storage area, the coal dries out after a while.

Paint is optional and for cosmetic purposes only. Expect the lumber, painted or not, to get dirty.

Rule of thrumb is where ever you come in contact with concrete, use pressure treated.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman-Anderson AA-130, Keystoker K-6
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Coal Size/Type: pea, buck, rice

Re: Coal bin help?

PostBy: Dennis On: Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:52 am

I don't think pt lumber is necessary unless you have a real damp basent floor.The coal will be wet for only a few days after delivery.The thing to think about will you be wetting the coal to keep the dust down during loading, then pt lumber might be the way to go,only a few bucks more and will last longer. It's great not having to go outside for coal in the cold or snow,I have a 2 year supply in my basement.
Dennis
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: AHS/WOC55-multi-fuel/wood,oil,coal
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/stove size


Re: Coal bin help?

PostBy: jkabdoors On: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:10 am

Dennis a two yr supply!!! thats great. My house is only 1 yr old so it is very dry i just didnt now about wet coal against the lumber
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Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pocono

Re: Coal bin help?

PostBy: Dennis On: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:41 am

After my first year experance with dust from delivery, I soak the coal at delivery and only takes maybe 3 days at most to dry.Calk all you joints and at the floor to keep dust from exiting the bin.I made the slide door opening from 2x12" pt lumber and sill plate with the sloped floor and joist also.Last year I started with a dust collection system and works great.I cut 2"pvc pipe and drilled holes in it and attached the shop vac to it,very simple(KISS)I don't have a picture of the pvc pipe, I didn't glue the joints that way you can switch things around till you like it.

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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: AHS/WOC55-multi-fuel/wood,oil,coal
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/stove size

Re: Coal bin help?

PostBy: jkabdoors On: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:48 am

I have to say there is not a better place that i have found where the poeple are so helpful. THANKS to everyone. Jeff
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Re: Coal bin help?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:31 am

jk, now this is Freetown RUSTIC, but they are still in real good shape after 4 yrs. I have 3 of these, each holds around a ton & 1/2--They are all rough cut Hemlock 1X's--yep, plenty of Amish around w/ saw mills-- Now, I burn NUT, my bottom is not air tight & I've got 4X4 PT under the bin for maybe some circulation--who knows--makes sense to this old farmer :) I've never had a leakage/ dripping problem--I lightly oil my coal if needed-- 5 wt or whatever might be in the barn in a big hand pump sprayer. Like I said, this is Freetown style--nobody cares much how pretty they are as long as they function well. ;) It's only as complicated as we choose to make it. :clap: toothy Hey Dennis, nice bin Dude!
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Re: Coal bin help?

PostBy: Dennis On: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:02 am

Thought i'd give the rest of the pics. Thats 8.2 tons of UAE nut jambed inside to the floor boards and falling out the chute door
The first pic. is of my first coal bin toothy :rofl:
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: AHS/WOC55-multi-fuel/wood,oil,coal
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/stove size

Re: Coal bin help?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:00 pm

Pretty up-town Dennis ;)
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Re: Coal bin help?

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:25 pm

@Dennis...looks good! is there enough slope from that window to "chute" it into the bin?
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Re: Coal bin help?

PostBy: WNY On: Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:28 am

You can search the COAL BIN PICS, there are a lot of good ideas and designs there. I think the pressure treated on the floor, rest can be regular wood.

COAL BIN Pics
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Re: Coal bin help?

PostBy: Dennis On: Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:42 pm

titleist1 wrote:@Dennis...looks good! is there enough slope from that window to "chute" it into the bin?


I cut a hole in the basement wall and installed a stainles steel door inside the coal bin,also including pics of the dust collection pipe
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: AHS/WOC55-multi-fuel/wood,oil,coal
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/stove size