New idea RE the Electoral College means of electing the Prez

New idea RE the Electoral College means of electing the President

yes, I agree with this Amendment idea
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no, I disagree with this Amendment idea
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New idea RE the Electoral College means of electing the Prez

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:06 pm

It now seems quite clear to me that Mitt Romney will very likely win the popular vote and also carry the vast majority of the individual States as well, but he will still be defeated in the upcoming Presidential election by President Obama. This is because President Obama will achieve equal to or more than the required 270 Electoral College votes to win.

Therefore I propose a new Amendment to the Constitution which would modify the current Electoral College method of electing the President to state that if you carry both a majority of the nations popular vote and a super majority of 2/3 or greater of the individual States themselves, you are the election winner regardless of the Electoral College vote tally. Otherwise the Electoral College vote stands.

Vote "yes" if you agree with this Constitutional Amendment proposal, and "no" if you do not agree with it.
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Re: New idea RE the Electoral College means of electing the Prez

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:04 pm

lsayre wrote:if you carry both a majority of the nations popular vote and a super majority of 2/3 or greater of the individual States themselves, you are the election winner regardless of the Electoral College vote tally.

How is that even possible?
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Re: New idea RE the Electoral College means of electing the Prez

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:25 pm

Each State has as many Electoral College votes as they have combined Senators and Representatives. Currently it takes a minimum of 270 Electoral College votes to win, regardless of the national popular vote count.

When George Bush won over Al Gore, Al Gore actually achieved something like 2.6 million more popular votes (from memory here), but Bush had greater than 270 Electoral College votes (thanks to Florida), so Bush became the President. In this case Bush also had won 30 of the 50 States.

What I'm proposing is that if a candidate wins the popular vote, and also wins 34 States, he is to be declared the President even if his opponent has achieved 270 or more electoral College votes. This would do a bit more than does the current system to prevent a few large states from determining the elections outcome, and if in the future there is even greater concentration of the Electoral College votes among only a few huge States, this would then be an even greater protection measure.

As it stands now, Obama seems to be on track to rack up roughly 290 Electoral College votes, but he is likely going to lose the popular vote by a substantial margin, as well as winning far less States than will Romney. It is very unlikely that Romney will carry 34 States, but if he did, under my proposed Amendment he would be the winner if he achieves this plus the popular vote, even if Obama wins 270 or more Electoral College votes. As it stands now however, if Romney wins roughly only the Bush equivalent of 30 States and also the popular vote, and if Obama gets more than 270 Electoral College votes, Obama wins. I believe Obama will accomplish exactly this, despite garnering far less popular votes on the national level than will Romney.

Perhaps I should initially have stipulated a 60% majority of the States (which is 30) instead of a 2/3 majority (which is 34)? :?:
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Re: New idea RE the Electoral College means of electing the Prez

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:50 pm

For grins, did you know that George Washington was not voted into office by the people? In fact, did you know that the Constitution does not specify voting by the people as the means for each State to select its alloted number of Electoral College Electors? All it says is that each State shall be free to determine how it will choose and allocate its Electoral College representatives who would cast the votes to determine both the President and the Vice President. In the early days of this country the State Legislators picked the Electors (the Electoral College delegates), so the people at large actually had little to do with whom would be their President. Then on top of this, the chosen Electors were totally free to vote for whom they may please. The person garnering the second most Electoral College votes was automatically the Vice President.

Could you imagine Romney being Obama's VP (or visa versa)?
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