Parental rights?

Parental rights?

PostBy: grumpy On: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:13 pm

What has happened to America..

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Re: Parental rights?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:32 pm

Yeah Grumpy it's insane. I just finished reading of a man in OR that got locked up for ............ having runoff water storage on his property. :|
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Re: Parental rights?

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:45 pm

What a wonderful, happy, positive, uplifting story! So many great things happening in Detroit :D
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Re: Parental rights?

PostBy: grumpy On: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:09 pm

SMITTY wrote:Yeah Grumpy it's insane. I just finished reading of a man in OR that got locked up for ............ having runoff water storage on his property. :|



Yeah, I saw that story. He is not the first either.
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Re: Parental rights?

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:45 pm

There's no shortage of outrage to latch onto; but there's two sides to every story. That lady looked pretty uppity to me. If her kid was psychotic, and she refused medication for the child, how does that benefit the child? I know it's a horrible reality to have to cope with, but that lady might have pushed it to that point of extreme legal intervention.
Nobody wants their rights trampled on; but had that lady been a little more diplomatic, she might have been able to have the kids medication changed. she just looked belligerant and combative to me. I don't know if there's really a whole hell of a lot you can do for psychosis.

There have been cases where extreme religiouds parents insist on praying over a kid who has simple appendicitis and refuse typical effective medical proceedures such as a simple appendectomy. If the child's life is endangered, then I think it is appropriate to intervene on behalf of common sense and the rights of the child.
Which leads to the old story of a man who was about to have his house inundated by a flood. Thye cops came by and said you need to evacuate. The guy says no, the Lord will protect me. The flood rises and the fire department comes by with a boat and tries to rescue the guy from his 2nd floor window. He says, no, the Lord will save me. The flood rises and a helicopter comes and tries to rescue him from his roof, he says no, the Lord will handle this. The flood sweeps the guy away and he drowns and goes to meet the Lord. The guy says why didn't you save me? The Lord says, "I sent you a cop, a boat, and a helicopter you dummy." :lol:
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PostBy: franco b On: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:30 pm

Good one. I remember when Mount St. Helens blew up. There was a man , I think by the name of Truman who refused to evacuate, stating he knew the mountain all his life and he would be OK. He is now buried about 1000 feet down.
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Re: Parental rights?

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:18 pm

franco b wrote:Good one. I remember when Mount St. Helens blew up. There was a man , I think by the name of Truman who refused to evacuate, stating he knew the mountain all his life and he would be OK. He is now buried about 1000 feet down.


He made his own decision... :clap:
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Re: Parental rights?

PostBy: jpete On: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:13 am

You don't have any rights. Parental or otherwise. Do something the state doesn't agree with and find out.
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Re: Parental rights?

PostBy: Dann757 On: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:40 am

Take it easy Jpete, try and get a perspective. "You don't have any rights" might apply to to North Korea, the Taliban, Communist Red China, Russia. You have so many more rights than most of the world here despite Obama's evil intentions.
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Re: Parental rights?

PostBy: hophead On: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:02 am

Hey Dann. Your avatar from a distance looks like you're cremating a dog.
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Re: Parental rights?

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:44 am

everytime a national tradegy occurs (which sucks) our wonderful government has the mindset to create new laws. Every law that is created is one less freedom. Every regulation or ordinance passed, whether local... state.. federal, is less freedoms we used to have. IMHO we have nothing but overpaid micro management officials running the show. Sorry fella's venting just a touch. :mad:
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Re: Parental rights?

PostBy: cokehead On: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:26 am

If rights are effectively made conditional by the government, they are not rights anymore, they are privileges granted by the government subject to ideological bureaucratic whims up to and including de facto revocation. Your rights are suffering death by a thousand paper cuts. Some people might consider Maryanne Godboldo uppity but I view her as a heroine. Most people will cave under that type of intimidation. She paid a price but she is slooooowly getting the system of bureaucratic oppression to back down. But, how many times did the bureaucracy run ruff shod over the people AND GET AWAY WITH IT. The sad thing is we are going into debt to pay for our own oppression.

Here is a little more of the story.

Here is some background not directly related to the Godboldo case but shines light on how societies are being controlled. Everything is "propaganda" including this video but even propaganda has to have elements of truth to believable. Food for thought.

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Re: Parental rights?

PostBy: franco b On: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:18 am

I don't think there is a conspiracy because for the most part psychiatrists are loonies themselves who have entered the field to give credence to their own wackiness. Just more self delusion as to the importance of their religion. Their house is built on sand but it does give support to government oppression by ever present wannabe Hitlers.
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Re: Parental rights?

PostBy: jpete On: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:19 am

Dann757 wrote:Take it easy Jpete, try and get a perspective. "You don't have any rights" might apply to to North Korea, the Taliban, Communist Red China, Russia. You have so many more rights than most of the world here despite Obama's evil intentions.


You've got the right to do what the government allows you to do. Tell me how that's different than any of the places you mentioned?
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Re: Parental rights?

PostBy: franco b On: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:27 am

jpete wrote:Tell me how that's different than any of the places you mentioned?


It's different in one way in that if you posted what you do here in the countries that Dann mentioned, you would be locked up, or worse.
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