Fussy insurance companies

Fussy insurance companies

PostBy: Scottsman On: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:07 pm

Does anybody know of a homeowner's insurance company that iss coal/wood stove friendly? My current company--Penn National is OK with my stove, but they say they won't renew my policy unless I fix the cracks and unevenness in my sidewalk. So I got a quote on re-doing it and they said almost $6,000--which is nuts. Needless to say, I started shopping other insurance companies. I got a good quote from Erie, but when the agent came to the house he noticed a couple of wood piles and said-Do you burn coal or wood? I told him coal, but sometimes wood. Then he said he would have to take pictures of the stove to underwrite it. A few days later they said no way, no how will they insure me--only if I had a stove that burned only coal. :o

So now I have to find another insurance company. Any ideas?
Scottsman
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Salvo Machinery/Citation C-80
Other Heating: Weil McLain steam oil boiler

Re: Fussy insurance companies

PostBy: titleist1 On: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:21 pm

We have State Farm and they didn't care that we had a wood/coal stove, only that the install was permitted, inspected and approved by the AHJ.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Fussy insurance companies

PostBy: Bruce M On: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:53 am

No problems with Allstate either, just have it inspected by the code enforcement and pay an extra $58 a year
Bruce M
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 1627 basement stove

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Re: Fussy insurance companies

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:46 am

Sidewalk??? I can't picture it. Walkway leading to your house??? Tear the bitch out & put gravel/ crusher run in & roll the tears out of it. Any side walks in our Towns/ Cities are the responsibility of said Town/City???? titleist, what is a AHJ????
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: Fussy insurance companies

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:56 am

Authority Having Jurisdiction = AHJ.
I'm On Fire
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machines DS-1600 Hot Air Circulator

Re: Fussy insurance companies

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:47 pm

Thanks IOF, I would have had to think about that for a while. :)
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Fussy insurance companies

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:48 pm

No problem. I deal with AHJ's daily doing inspections.
I'm On Fire
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machines DS-1600 Hot Air Circulator

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PostBy: mozz On: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:33 pm

Just dropped Allstate because my policy went up $1000/year. I had a claim last year when a neighbors tree fell on my garden and chicken coop. Liberty Mutual just gave me a decent price which is only a little more than what i was paying for the last 6 years before my claim.
mozz
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 1982 AA-130 Steam

Re: Fussy insurance companies

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:14 pm

How dare you file a claim against an Ins. Co., you should know better than that insurance is a one way street, you pay- they don't. If you force the issue they either drop you or jack the rate so high you can't afford it, just free enterprise doing what it does best.
samhill
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: keystoker 160
Hand Fed Coal Stove: hitzer 75 in garage
Stove/Furnace Make: keystoker/hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: koker 160/ hitzer 75

Re: Fussy insurance companies

PostBy: smithy On: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:01 pm

Here's a wonderful story of free enterprise

George Jacob "G.J." Mecherle [1] (pronounced "Ma-herl") (June 7, 1877 - March 10, 1951) was the founder of State Farm Insurance, headquartered in Bloomington, Illinois. Mecherle, a farmer who became an insurance agent also, founded State Farm after becoming dissatisfied with the insurance rates charged to farmers, as those rates included the risks of city drives as well.

Mr. Mecherle was inducted into the Junior Achievement U.S. Business Hall of Fame in 1985

You know the wonderful thing about free enterprise IF You don't like something YOU can build something better. Or you can just b@#$h about it.
smithy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Columbia
Baseburners & Antiques: Chicago Stove Works home perfect 214
Coal Size/Type: Nut
Stove/Furnace Model: Home perfect 214

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PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:02 am

Is it any wonder insurance companies in MA are in bed with our state government. That tells you all you need to know about the companies available here.

Deval Patrick - our "fine" governor, might as well just work for the UN & George Soros. :mad: http://michaelgraham.com/archives/deval ... zophrenic/

The insurance companies here tell you which products you can, or cannot own. FOr example, the state, in it's uber-liberal left-wing nutbag way of thinking, just banned all kids under age 12 from OWNING and RIDING any off road vehicles - be it an ATV or Dirt Bike. Now, your homeowners will drop you if the agent sees any "kids bikes" in your garage during the mandatory inspection.

Every day is closer to full blown communism ... :sick:
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Fussy insurance companies

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:16 am

Scottsman wrote:I got a good quote from Erie, but when the agent came to the house he noticed a couple of wood piles and said-Do you burn coal or wood? I told him coal, but sometimes wood. Then he said he would have to take pictures of the stove to underwrite it. A few days later they said no way, no how will they insure me--only if I had a stove that burned only coal.


Is your stove UL listed? That is usually the hang-up with insurance companies. My home is insured with Erie, and they had no problem at all with the wood boiler installed in the house.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

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PostBy: Scottsman On: Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:35 pm

They stove is an older one (maybe mid-80's), but it was UL tested--has the tag and all. I have steel wall protection on 1" pipes and everything, but they still fussed. Whatever--they have a right to pick and choose their risks. But it's funny because my next door neighbor has an older wood and coal stove in his basement and is insured with them with no problems. Maybe they light his better because it is in the basement. Or maybe his agent wrote it up different.
Scottsman
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Salvo Machinery/Citation C-80
Other Heating: Weil McLain steam oil boiler

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PostBy: SteveZee On: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:59 pm

Scottsman wrote:They stove is an older one (maybe mid-80's), but it was UL tested--has the tag and all. I have steel wall protection on 1" pipes and everything, but they still fussed. Whatever--they have a right to pick and choose their risks. But it's funny because my next door neighbor has an older wood and coal stove in his basement and is insured with them with no problems. Maybe they light his better because it is in the basement. Or maybe his agent wrote it up different.


I would have just told them ok then I'll only burn coal. A couple of times they came over my place for an inspection in the summer and I always made sure to have a big vase of flower on the cookstove and it always got a compliment and a smile but never an ask if it actually worked! ;) I have a new oil boiler in the basement that has run for one single 5 day week last winter when I was away. Guess they figure thats the main heater?

Like Samhill said, How dare you actually file a claim! Sheesh, these guys slay me. I've never had a claim in 20 some years here in this house. One time I had some raccoon damage on the soffetts and in the eves but that wasn't covered, but you'll be happy to know sir, that if a volcano ever erupts and causes damage, I'm covered for that! :? Lovely and makes perfect insurance sense (wink wink) since there are none around here.
SteveZee
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Modern Oak 116 & Glenwood 208 C Range

Re: Fussy insurance companies

PostBy: grizzly2 On: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:52 am

I have never had an insurance co. send anyone to inspect my home. I hope it stays that way. :shh:
grizzly2
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 30 - 95
Coal Size/Type: pea and nut/ anthracite
Other Heating: Jotul #3 wood stove in garage. Oil backup in house. Electric backup in house.

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