The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

Re: The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:46 am

I'd have said the same thing ....... only with a few F-bombs tossed in to get my point across. :D :D :D
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Re: The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:01 am

The definition of insanity---"doing the same thing over & over & expecting different results" :(
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Re: The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:24 am

It sounds to me like the company would be money ahead without this guy at all.
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Re: The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

PostBy: whistlenut On: Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:21 am

They learn their 'habits' from viewing someone else, remember that!
Here's one for you to consider: "If the father is an idiot, the mother is an idiot; there is a more than reasonable likelihood that the offspring will be idiots".

THEN consider that the offspring will reproduce, and the cycle will continue. Anyone seeing a pattern here?

My $.02 says to step up folks, and help those you can and make a difference.

The 'lost' may remain that way, and hopefully, like the hippie generation, their folks set up a trust fund for them to buy the Audi's and beemers when the 'fog' clears for them.
If not, we will not have fun paying for the mess we have created.

Sounds like Rev Jim on the old TV series 'Taxi'. :D :o :shock: :roll:
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Re: The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:31 pm

Sounds more to me like it's the bosses that are the idiots, even in any union I ever worked for this kid would be history. By not firing him they are just leaving themselves open for more of the same.
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Re: The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:12 pm

whistlenut wrote:They learn their 'habits' from viewing someone else, remember that!
Here's one for you to consider: "If the father is an idiot, the mother is an idiot; there is a more than reasonable likelihood that the offspring will be idiots".

THEN consider that the offspring will reproduce, and the cycle will continue. Anyone seeing a pattern here?

My $.02 says to step up folks, and help those you can and make a difference.

The 'lost' may remain that way, and hopefully, like the hippie generation, their folks set up a trust fund for them to buy the Audi's and beemers when the 'fog' clears for them.
If not, we will not have fun paying for the mess we have created.

Sounds like Rev Jim on the old TV series 'Taxi'. :D :o :shock: :roll:


You know what's funny is that he does have a trust fund. Last he told me about it he had about $45k in it. But every time he screws up to the point of being broke whether it's from partying too much or being robbed by a hooker (yes, that's happened to him twice), or being arrested for something stupid. He dips into it only to turn around and blow the money on drugs, alcohol, hookers or whatever. The best line he ever gave me was, "Dude, I could take that $45k out and live comfortably for a year." I laughed and asked him what *censored* world he lived in. Because I could have that $45k blown in a week paying bills and doing repairs on the house or cars. $45k is nothing with the way things are right now. Then he tells me he's going to open a business. "With $45k?" I asked. "Good *censored* luck."
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Re: The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

PostBy: gaw On: Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:13 pm

samhill wrote:Sounds more to me like it's the bosses that are the idiots, even in any union I ever worked for this kid would be history. By not firing him they are just leaving themselves open for more of the same.

Yes there is something wrong here. This guy is either so talented that he is irreplaceable or he has compromising photos of his boss that the boss don’t want leaked out. If I knew a company hired and kept people like this I would not want to do business with that company. He would not last a week at Wal-Mart, McDonalds or any convenience store. Even a union job requires you to show up on time. You may not have to work so hard when you are there but you have to show up.
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Re: The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:44 am

Sounds like he's got a relative in the front office. The pattern is eerily familiar ....
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Re: The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:57 am

I would like Richard to add a smilie for 'Good F**king Luck' The 'GFL' smilie would answer thousands of questions and situations we see here on the forum, and make the point without a dialog of 375 posts, that none of us has time to read, anyway!

It would let the outgoing high school seniors get a slap up side the head before they step into the 'Big Wild World". There are plenty of GREAT kids out there, and we need to find more time to thanks them while we drag the 'less energetic' with us as we muster on. 'GFL' to all of you guys today!!!
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Re: The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

PostBy: bustedwing On: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:58 pm

If he worked with me he'd be fired.My former employer(I'm recently retired) would give you 1 no call no show,2nd time you're history.5 lates in 1 year and you're gone.The bums didn't last long,good riddance.You must be a union company.
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Re: The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:12 pm

bustedwing wrote:If he worked with me he'd be fired.My former employer(I'm recently retired) would give you 1 no call no show,2nd time you're history.5 lates in 1 year and you're gone.The bums didn't last long,good riddance.You must be a union company.


We're split shop. All the fitters are union, the inspection department not so much. Ihappen to be in inspections..so not unionized.
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Re: The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:14 am

In my old store we did seasonal retail/food...
employed about 25-30 kids 14-23 years old...
every year was the same 300- 500 applications weeded down to 50 to train...
which filled out to the 25-30 actual employees...
of those 30 20 would be good,5 would be great and 2 would be exceptional...
I remember one of those kids started at 14 stayed for 5 years...
understand that this was an entry level type job scoopin ice cream making fudge...
so that was a long time but she was a 1% kid very few like her come along and i was blessed to train her...
so she asks for a recomendation for a job she was applying for back home during the school year...
It was REI and i was impressed they actualy called for the reference...
The recuiter/hiring person asks me point blank why REI should hire her...
I told him that she would be a manager or be his boss within 5 years and that if she was not hired it would be a big *censored* mistake on his part...
He responds that is a pretty strong statement why do you think so...
because i trained her when she started working at 14 and in 2 years she was running the nite shift.
And that her cohort at the store was offered a position with one of the mall chain stores for 45k/yr and they would put him thru college when he was 17...
They were co-managing my store at that point.
3 years later she was an assistant manager then moved up to full manager...
There are good kids out there they just need that good mentoring...
Had another that was on scholarship to Westfield State...
What a wild summer that was...
She was from Louisania, her roomies were from OK, AK all went to Westfield on a full ride...
Anyway she shows back up 6 years later walks into the store and says I bet you don't remember me...
How could I forget the 3 crazy girls from Westfield that stripped down topless in a limo going down Main St Hyannis...
Hanging out the moonroof with the tunes blasting yep I was inside that limo...
Lots of other crazy stuff back when the Cape was cheap enough for college kids to work,party and still have some cash for college.
So we were talking about how great a summer that was but how that work in the store impressed upon her the need to do well in school...
We did fun *censored* in the store but we always 'sold' even though it was just a 'fun place to work' the smart ones picked up on that...
They were in school learning valuable lessons without even knowing during the summer...
I asked Leslie what she did for work now...
She was well dressed and had a nice car...
Lawyer...
The good ones are few and far between...
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Re: The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:01 am

I'm a god damned babysitter.

We've been at a Critical Site Inspection all week. A bank. Critical Site means that there are places we can't go without an escort. It also means that if I go into someplace I'm not supposed to, shut something down, touch something that I'm not supposed to I could potentially lose my job. All week, this kid has bitched that I just walk around with him and do nothing. I carry the keys, and the card access. I open doors and pull stations. When I explained to him that I don't have to do anything he dropped the tools and refused to do anything. Which meant I had to do it. Otherwise, it wouldn't get done. Now, we were supposed to work on Saturday the 13th. Tomorrow. But the customer moved it up to tonight Friday the 12th. Which slightly annoys me. Because now, I lose out on 8 hours of OT. My wife works nights so I need to be home for my kids.

So, this idiot ponies up and enthusiastically professes, "I'll work the overnight!!" and when asked if he needed help he says, "No man, I can do it myself."

Good everyone thinks. So, yesterday we hustled to finish everything we could during the day leaving him with the daycare, horn test and women's rooms. Perfect.

Not so. Yesterday afternoon he goes, "Yo, I'm going to the Yankee game tonight." to which I reply, "You need to work tomorrow. You have to get the tools from me for Friday night." and he says, "Yeah man, no worries. I'll be there."

Here we are Friday morning. I HAVE NO *censored* CLUE WHERE THIS JACKASS IS!!! I haven't heard from him. I being the idiot I am go to where we meet and sit there for forty *censored* minutes expecting this ass clown to show up. I text him six times and get no response. I then text my boss and no response. Why isn't my boss answering? OH RIGHT!! He went to the game too.

So angrily, I put the truck in gear and floor it out of the parking lot. Tires squealing. I hop on the highway to the job, by myself as *censored* usual.

This retard is going to stay home. Get PAID for it then he'll go to the job tonight and GET OVER TIME!! MY OVER TIME!! I was supposed to work but can't because it got moved.

Oh, but the best part is. The two jobs I'm doing today are fairly close to my house. Job one is a bit further job two is quite close. This idiot is going to text or call me later on in the day, "Hey man sorry, can you drop the tools off at my house?"

To which I will reply, "*censored* off. Come get 'em."

He won't come get them. Then he won't go to the job. Then Monday morning I'll get a phone call, "The customer said no one showed up Friday night."

"Yup. Talk to the jackass who said he'd go but never showed up to work during the day to get the tools."

I'm done. I'm telling my boss from this point on no more partners. I'm not training these idiots anymore and I'm not babysitting them.
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Re: The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:24 am

FINALLY :)
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Re: The youth and their shoddy work ethic....

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:46 am

If your job is sitting on the shelf in a carnival dunk tank; you're gonna get wet a lot :D
An Irishman from Ireland once told me an Irish saying when I was whining about something:
"If you don't like the chair you're sitting in, get up out of it!"

IOF, you should look into some management courses; I'm sure you're a really nice guy like me; and that's how you get yourself manipulated into situations like these. I could use a little assertiveness training myself :D

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Now don't get me wrong, I recognize you have a lot of responsibilities; a house, a family to take care of. Good for you! That takes a lot of courage!

This is why I work for myself. :D I'm not really all that good at the customer relations part but I'm learning with each idiotic selfish customer :lol:
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