Here's one way that Romney can turn the tables on Obama

lsayre wrote:If the Romney/Ryan ticket wins many will be surprised (OK, shocked) at how much more our National debt goes up and how much more our standard of living declines and how our few vestages of remaining freedom vanish (and that goes ditto for Obama/Biden).

Thanks for the positive uplifting opinion. It does seem like Romney/Ryan will apply the brakes on the runaway train of debt; but at least they won't hit the throttle like Obama is doing.

I'm not the most optimistic guy about the country, but I think we still have way more than a "few vestiges of remaining freedom"

As to my gloom and doom:

The economy part is mainly due to the Federal Reserve, the banks (a subset of the Fed), and Wall Street running the show instead of Congress, and the freedom part is due to the Patriot Act, TSA, NDAA, drones over America, militarized police, Obamacare, the abandonment of the Posse Comitatus Act , etc... (these mainly all given to us by Congress)

lsayre wrote:

jpete wrote:How?
Ryan voted for all that unsustainable spending.
Stop listening to your television folks.
It's easy enough to hit YouTube to hear the mans words for yourself.

If the Romney/Ryan ticket wins many will be surprised (OK, shocked) at how much more our National debt goes up and how much more our standard of living declines and how our few vestages of remaining freedom vanish (and that goes ditto for Obama/Biden).

Nevertheless Ryan has put a budget on the table which is a starting point and will pressure the other side to put up something other than "soak the rich" which only makes their base feel better and solves nothing. Maybe issues will be faced with concrete proposals from both sides instead of meaningless distortions.

franco b wrote:Nevertheless Ryan has put a budget on the table which is a starting point and will pressure the other side to put up something other than "soak the rich" which only makes their base feel better and solves nothing. Maybe issues will be faced with concrete proposals from both sides instead of meaningless distortions.

With the Democrats, it's more like "eat the rich, but keep the printing presses running overtime anyway". With the Republicans, it more like "we have a printing press, so why eat anyone". Both approaches are brain dead, but one is both fatal and brain dead.

lsayre wrote:As to my gloom and doom:

The economy part is mainly due to the Federal Reserve, the banks (a subset of the Fed), and Wall Street running the show instead of Congress, and the freedom part is due to the Patriot Act, TSA, NDAA, drones over America, militarized police, Obamacare, the abandonment of the Posse Comitatus Act , etc... (these mainly all given to us by Congress)

World War Two was called by Churchill " the most unnecessary war that ever was", and rightly so because it was the result of political failure and could have been nipped in the bud in 1936.
So too the Korean and Vietnam wars.

But they did happen and we coped. The debts were largely paid by devaluing the dollar by inflation, the same thing that is going on now.

The Fed is the creature of whatever party is in power and will do what that party and Congress wants. Alan Greenspan was an economic conservative and look what happened anyway.

Of course standard of living will be lowered. That's what happens when you are living on credit and now have to pay the bill. The standard of living of the Government should be lowered the most if there were any justice.

By insisting both parties face the facts both economically and in the erosion of freedom we will cope again.

The attack ads are coming thick and nasty. They say Ryan wants to gut everything, but the austerity is not that severe, I think it takes place over the period until 2024.

In the meantime the left doesn't mention that Obama gutted Medicare to the tune of billions to pay for Obamatax.

I'm just a gullible citizen that absorbs media information like anybody else. Still think Romney/Ryan will be 1000 times better for the country and its morale than the current crop of left-wing academics in the Obamanation Administration.

And with respect to my gloom and doom, how could I have forgotten Homeland Security and Big Sis? Oh, and I forgot the Czars also....

I heard Janet is turning the Dept. into a sister sorority now. Hillary just waves her finger at the world in speeches and then goes out partying. Holder is hiding under a desk. They sent Joe Biden back to Delaware to muzzle him

Caterpillar asked the unions to accept a six-year wage freeze so they can keep manufacturing in America. Way too much to ask so they'll probably pack up and leave too eventually.

If The New World Order Regime Of Absolute Global Statism (R.A.G.S.) reads my posts, I'll be the first to be collected for disposal

I wonder who is gonna come to get me? Local cops? I support the local cops. Camflaged military SWAT team of undisclosed origin? Would I have the time or the guts to resist or check out; you know live free or die? HAHAHAHAHA

Help me Obi-Wan Romney Kenobi, you're my only hope!

lsayre wrote:And with respect to my gloom and doom, how could I have forgotten Homeland Security and Big Sis? Oh, and I forgot the Czars also....

The questions still remain. Which side is more likely to expand the economy?

Which side is more likely to develop domestic energy?

Which side will have a more pragmatic approach rather than ideological?

Which side will be more likely to shrink government?

Using the word likely is more like tendency or maybe, no sure thing and will probably fall far short of what you would like, but those are the choices.

Dann757 wrote:Help me Obi-Wan Romney Kenobi, you're my only hope!

Have confidence in the force my son.

There once was a man named Paul Ryan,
Who declared that Obama is lyin'.
The left it struck back
With ads that attack,
While the people just sat there all cryin'

Dann757 wrote:There once was a man named Paul Ryan,
Who declared that Obama is lyin'.
The left it struck back
With ads that attack,
While the people just sat there all cryin'

You should be a Mother Goose author, sounds funny and does rhyme, but Facts escape you. Facts are not found from your talk show pundits, or you would not be writing B.S. poetry. Lie'n Ryan. and BullMitt. Their lies are easy to prove, and astounding to anyone with 2 ears and even a little bit of a brain between them, video and audio tapes do not lie, unlike these 2 clowns. soon, we will hear the Cry'in.

My guess is that Romney must not like all his grand children equally or doesn't want commoners to be able to have children using in vitro fertilization, one of Ryan's proposed bills would end that practice.

samhill wrote:My guess is that Romney must not like all his grand children equally or doesn't want commoners to be able to have children using in vitro fertilization, one of Ryan's proposed bills would end that practice.

There is a saying that makes the point that the Republicans want everyone to wear a ball and chain withing the confines of their own home (and remove it upon exiting the home), and the Democrats want everyone to apply a ball and chain upon exiting their home (and remove it upon entering the home), and the Libertarians don't want anyone to wear balls and chains either at home or outside of the home (provided that they are doing no harm to their neighbors).