Is this site Racist?

Re: Is this site Racist?

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:48 pm

I look forward to all debates Dann, most people can do so without getting out of hand or their blood pressure up.
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Re: Is this site Racist?

PostBy: franco b On: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:56 pm

We are all racists and we are all not racists because what we are talking about is only an aspect of human behavior called the enmity amity complex.

We feel amity towards members of our own group and hostility towards those not of our group. This was fixed in our behavioral genes many thousands of years ago as a means of bettering our chances of survival. Outsiders bring discord and possibly disease and tend to destroy the cohesiveness of the group or tribe. Studies of animal societies where it very much exists as well as primitive human and modern societies have proven this.

This behavior is a good thing, and in addition to our survival in the past it is what has fostered pride in a community, the social pressure to conform to acceptable behavior by its members, and also competition with neighboring communities to better themselves. It's our town. Our neighborhood. Our school. Our team. Our country. Always the feeling that it is ours and better than what others do or have and stay the hell out. Often it is true.

The bad part is that it excludes groups that might very well fit in and benefit the whole; Irishmen,Jews, blacks. The behavior is not going to change; what can change is the perception towards the excluded group. Maybe they really are "one of us". Education and familiarity with the excluded group as well as opportunity for members of that group to distinguish themselves all work to gradually dissipate feelings of hostility. When you read G. B. Shaw and Oscar Wilde then maybe Irish men are not so dumb. Read the autobiography of Frederick Douglas and it is impossible not to like the man as a person. Washington Carver is rightly called the savior of Southern agriculture. Interviews with black athletes reveal that most are not the step and fetchit of caricature.

Understanding human nature and working with it is the only way socially desirable goals can be achieved. The absolutely wrong way is programs like school busing that only destroy successful communities and create more hostility as well as foster crime and destroy the very things that made the community desirable. Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

The problem is that politicians have no education in the science of man. Once in a great while we have a Jefferson or Franklin who seem to have an intuitive understanding of man and his nature. The spiritual trust neither emotion nor logic believing both are flawed through incomplete knowledge.
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Re: Is this site Racist?

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:10 pm

This site is not racist but it is quite evident that some of it's members are unequivocally racist


...Ah, more from the Little Blue Book BS. As he can't quote any examples or argue sensibly then we turn the page and here is the next little dirty trick, guilt by association. Of course, now he has found the italic button it must be doubly true..... more nonsense.... Also as he used a big werd "unequivocally" (haha) he must be smart as well. You wish to accuse somebody, name names and quote examples. Without doubt the worst President in US history is Obama -- period. You just assume my motives are racist as it does not suit your marxist fixation to believe otherwise. Despite the fact that my last personal assistant as Dir of Research for a large Pharmaceutical company for many years was an all black girl. I know, don't confuse me with the facts I have made my decision. Keep turning those pages, new even stupider ideas are in the back of the book.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, stop it, I'll break a rib. You guys are sooooo funny.
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Re: Is this site Racist?

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:46 pm

WoW, I never had me one of them thar personal assistant, closest I ever came to one of them was living with a stripper for awhile. U must be reely reely rich, maybe that's it you want to keep all them loopholes youst got. How do you know she was an all black woman? Then again maybe I don't want to know, appears that you have short term memory loss anyhow. Just why is it that most other developed countries seem to have less trouble with the racist problem than us? It appears to be that way anyhow. :?
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Re: Is this site Racist?

PostBy: Dann757 On: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:04 pm

The two last posts are OUTSTANDING! ( except for Sam who snuck one in). Why is it that the conservatives are so much more intelligent than the resident libs :?: :D
Zooom! Over their heads.

Blackrocks, I'm sorry; you have to change your name. It has terrible racist overtones. I would turn you in to Eric Holder, but he's very busy fighting contempt charges.

I live in one of the most racially diverse states in the country. I don't admit my racism, I declare it. But I support everybody's constitutional rights, their right to pursue happiness. I wish I was so evolved as to love and get along with everybody like Samhill; but unfortunately I still harbor a sense of self-preservation in my amygdyla.

I was even willing to give Obama every chance. Now he is openly touting "shared prosperity". Not the American way.
He just willfully and intentionally circumvented the law to grant more amnesty to more illegals. He is actively making welfare requirements more lax, gutting Clinton's welfare reform. Again illegal. Unemployment Jan '09 was 8.3%. Unemployment Jan '12 was 8.3%. But he needs more time.

I'll work on my racism, I'm already tolerant enough to be a solid law abiding citizen. Evfen when I'm witnessing the rapid deterioration of my culture due to Obama's open border policy.
I can laugh and joke with the brothers when I see them, they sense that I have soul. I have suffered and they know it. But I don't want to live with them and they don't want to live with me. That's OK. But not in the twisted minds of some liberals.
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Re: Is this site Racist?

PostBy: Dann757 On: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:11 pm

samhill wrote:WoW, I never had me one of them thar personal assistant, closest I ever came to one of them was living with a stripper for awhile. U must be reely reely rich, maybe that's it you want to keep all them loopholes youst got. How do you know she was an all black woman? Then again maybe I don't want to know, appears that you have short term memory loss anyhow.


Sam, once again, you got nothin', so you resorted to personal insults.

samhill wrote:Just why is it that most other developed countries seem to have less trouble with the racist problem than us? It appears to be that way anyhow.


You gotta be kidding. Who do you think you're talking to? I suppose Anders Breivik blew up the gov't building in Oslo for no reason? I guess the incredible mistake of allowing masses of third world immigrants into Germany, France, and England has caused a big happy family there too. The leaders of those countries have stated flat out that multi-culturalism doesn't work. Why don't you go fishing for a while on that big lake you live next to, and come back when you regather a modicum of composure?
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Re: Is this site Racist?

PostBy: franco b On: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:25 pm

To give an idea of just how long we have been doing what we do.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 201850.htm

An in your face approach does not work unless you decide to blow that face clean off.

We see how well that worked with the French in 1790
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Re: Is this site Racist?

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:47 pm

What personal insult, I did live with a stripper for a few years, heck she pulled in a lot more than I did working for a big Corp. & she had steady hours to boot so she could complete school, what a big wonderful country we live in. 8-)
Almost forgot, Clinton's welfare reform is alive & well, the states now have more control over their needs, I thought that was one of the things you wanted but if given by a lib you don't want it. Guess it's the con's way to take everything by force.
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Re: Is this site Racist?

PostBy: franco b On: Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:43 pm

samhill wrote:I did live with a stripper for a few years, heck she pulled in a lot more than I did working for a big Corp. & she had steady hours to boot so she could complete school, what a big wonderful country we live in.

Why mention she was a stripper? Was it to establish that you are "one of us" (at least in our dreams) and so more worthy to be taken seriously? I am not trying to hit on you personally but just trying to point out how subtly our emotions can control us. We all do it.
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Re: Is this site Racist?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:57 pm

Well!!! I've got a couple of black friends--or wait--maybe they're gay--oh hell, I'm just damn worldly-- :clap: toothy I do have a handful of GOOD friends I would trust having my back--color, nationality be damned ;)
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Re: Is this site Racist?

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:08 pm

I mentioned that she was a stripper because that's what she did at the time, very good at it I might add, maybe I should have said she was a nuclear physicist for NASA, it wouldn't have been the truth but would that have been more to your liking? She is the closest I've ever had to being a personal assistant, one of the finest ladies I have ever met & I'm not inferring anything sexual just a great honest person.
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Re: Is this site Racist?

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Re: Is this site Racist?

PostBy: franco b On: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:37 pm

samhill wrote:I mentioned that she was a stripper because that's what she did at the time, very good at it I might add, maybe I should have said she was a nuclear physicist for NASA, it wouldn't have been the truth but would that have been more to your liking? She is the closest I've ever had to being a personal assistant, one of the finest ladies I have ever met & I'm not inferring anything sexual just a great honest person.


Again why stripper? Why not just woman? Stripper immediately brings up sexual connotations and reflects in a positive way on your manhood. Nuclear Physicist would reflect on your intellect in the same way. Again it is just not you because we all do it. I'm picking on you because you are not one of the crazies, but a level headed (mostly) decent man. It's the human condition that causes so much disagreement over not logical but emotional issues.
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Re: Is this site Racist?

PostBy: Dann757 On: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:37 pm

freetown fred wrote:Well!!! I've got a couple of black friends--or wait--maybe they're gay--oh hell, I'm just damn worldly-- I do have a handful of GOOD friends I would trust having my back--color, nationality be damned


HAHAHAHAHA gotta respect that man. :D

Sam, scroll up, I quoted your personal insult to Coalnewbie, how did you miss it? How deeply in denial can you go?

FrancoB writes a champion essay worthy of the great writers and you ignore it and start off on a bizarre topic. Coalnewbie writes a great comeback, did you even read it? HAHAHAHAHA I would give up, but us conservatives HAVE HAD IT with the liberal destruction of the USA. There's a massive groundswell of fed up, traditional values Americans, who have had all we can take. Paul Ryan is an articulate, popular, dedicated American and he will wipe the floor with nutcase Joe.

You're lucky, my nephew lived with a psychotic stripper and they had a kid out of wedlock, to go with all the other kids she had out of wedlock. She smoked, drank, and drugged when he was in the womb. He had some borderline fetal alcohol syndrome. When he was born she taped a quarter over his navel to try and give him an "inny". They both abandoned the kid and my overwrought sister in law with four kids of her own took him in. When he grew up, he had a kid out of wedlock, with a stripper. He joined the Army a couple years ago, took in all the congradulations, took Uncle Sam's money, then chickened out. I don't know how he got out of it, but since it's an all volunteer Army now, I guess they didn't want someone of his low caliber. Completely irresponsible dude.

I've gotta bite my knuckles resisting the temptation to bust your balls now. :D

The thing that we can't understand, is you have all the makings and background of a good conservative, yet you cling to the liberal way of thinking. It's not too late, come away from the dark side and vote sensible, vote Republican. :lol:
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Re: Is this site Racist?

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:45 pm

I didn't disagree with Franco's post that's why I didn't post anything. I don't put a whole lot of stock in what CNB says since he's too busy cracking himself up, what he posted did however make me think of an old friend, guess I shouldn't have put anything down it's just that a persons race or position in life makes no difference of who they are or how they may effect you, at least that's my outlook on things.
OK Dann & CNB, I went back & did some reading & the thing that caught me was the girl being "all black" maybe I shouldn't have asked how you knew. I have never lived where there is by any means a shortage of blacks, know many & have many black friends but have never in my life heard of any referred to as being all black. Just caught me as a funny way to describe someone. CNB, I'm sorry if that somehow offended you, don't for the life of me know why it should have but if it did I apologize. Dann, get a life brother, all the things said here some of which are very well said & true & others are well they just are but in any event they are not going to change much if anything at all & the sun will still rise in the morning, don't take everything so seriously. Naturally I'm not saying that you can't if you want, don't want to be accused of telling anyone that they can't take everything seriously & worry themselves into an ulcer or anything like that, not be covered by HI being that it was self induced. :lol:
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