More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

Re: More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:09 pm

SMITTY wrote:When I was a kid, when driving around with my dad we used to laugh at foreign cars. They were tiny, and funny looking. Now their mopping the floor with our fleet.

Amazing how things change when you take being #1 for granted. :(


I have the same memories. But I also recall that around that same time American made cars were rusting away from new to scrap metal in only a few years. I recall a popular bumper sticker from that era which proclaimed that: "On a quiet night you can hear the Ford's rusting." Not that this problem was limited to just Ford's.
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Re: More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:30 pm

Yeah my ol' man was a die-hard Ford fan. So was my grandfather - it got passed down. He bought a brand new '76 Ford pickup that fall, and by summer of '79, the cab mounts had all rotted right through! The whole cab was just resting on the frame! If he ever had to stop quick the whole cab would've shot right off. :lol:

I remember following him home once on my bike on our potholed & heaved-up street, and the lower quarters of the box behind the rear wheels were flapping like trap doors. Still to this day he says he's never seen a vehicle rust so fast in his life.
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Re: More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:37 pm

In retrospect, if the foreign cars didn't first step up their quality big time (as they quite obviously did, and did well), does anyone honestly think the American car manufacturers would have done so all on their own? Or would we still be hearing our cars rust on quite nights?
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Re: More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:35 pm

Good point. I'd bet they ALL would've gone under by now. No bailouts, no nuthin'. But, we'd probably have a new guy on the block trying to start up a company from the ashes. Well, at least after this presidency he'd try .... and it would've ended up better than anything we've ever seen.

Oh, to live in that parallel universe ..... :(
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Re: More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

PostBy: europachris On: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:08 am

American cars back then may have rusted fast, but I think the Germans invented (and patented) "warp-speed" rusting. The Beetle would rot a floorpan out in just a few years, but they were so easy to fix nobody cared. Porsche 911s from the 60's all the way through the mid 70's would also rot right before your eyes if they got a whiff of salt.

But, the Germans (at least VW) learned and my '02 Jetta has lived its entire life in the "rust belt" of the upper Midwest and to this day remains a most amazingly rust-free car. The insides of the doors/rear hatch were sprayed with this thick, waxy substance at the factory and while some does drool out the door drains in really hot weather, there is absolutely ZERO body rust on the car. The bolts on the car have this weird plating that looks like hot dip galvanizing but not as "crusty" and it has a greenish tint to it. I have no idea what it is, but they do NOT rust! I've yet to encounter a stuck bolt and I've had the entire front suspension apart for bearings, bushings, struts and springs. About the only thing I do is run it through the carwash regularly in the winter to get the underbody salt douched off if it's warm enough. Salt doesn't eat much when the temps are below 20F, but above that the salt pulls moisture out of the air and really feasts on your ride.

To contrast my VW, the '05 Libery CRD I owned had every fastener and suspension part under the body rust solid the first time it got near a salted road. Mostly it was a cosmetic issue, but I think there's been a recent recall where a rear suspension arm was rusting through.... :shock:
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Re: More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

PostBy: bustedwing On: Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:28 am

1988 Ranger,190k,ran great no problems,not used to keeping them past 100k so had a long block put in it,10k went to 900 miles to a quart of oil,should have kept the original engine,still driving it,rusting badly.1989 Ranger,bought 3 or 4 years ago,new mexico truck,no rust,excellent body and interior,90k on it now,somebody didn't maintain the engine,it's an expensive(repairs) piece of junk,gonna use it as a parts truck for the 1988.2007 focus,daily driver,bought new,145k on it,34 mpg when new,down to 30 mpg now,run the piss out of it,love the stick shift,makes it fly on the mountain,doesn't use any oil,mobil1 since new,at 99200 ford did the head under warranty,gave me a free rentacar for 10 days,no complaints.1991 f150 bought new,190k a plastic gear on the oil pump broke,limped it to work and sold it where it sat for 500 bucks,he fixed it and sold it and it's still going strong,mobil1 since new.Like my fords,do my own general maintenance,let a local shop do exhausts and brakes,my old bones don't like laying on the ground anymore.
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Re: More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:45 am

Guess you like Fords...me too.
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Re: More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:56 pm

Always had mostly Fords with good luck. 66 Mustang 289 auto, 30 over, 10.5:1 TRW pistons, 500 cfm Holly 2 bbl sleeper with a vinyl roof. After 8 years mashed that (hit and run) a week before getting married so bought another one w/blown motor and swapped it out. Drove it for a short time and spun out and put it sideways over a block wall drive way after pivioting on cement filled well anchored milk can :roll: Almost made the 180 degree in turn ... motor had 170+ on it when I gave up. 67 Mustang convertible weezer 200 cu 6 but fun to drive in warm weather. Rusted out in the early 90's. 81 Escort drove the piss out of it. Sold it w/ 167k on it and someone littererly drove the wheels off of it. Brother gave me his 71 Pontiac LaMans stripper which I drove for a few years until the rear shock towers gave out. 78 war wagon F150 6 cyl (300) stick that I drove and finally sold to the township for collecting recycling ... had 183k on it and it was around for another 6 years. In 91 got 84 F150 300 6 that I drove until 2002 and sold it for 1500 / 164k still looking good. Sold that to get a 92 302 stick F150 flair side that came from Scranton. That was the rustiest vehicle I ever had. Rusted out and wasn't worth anything by the time I traded it with 157K on the 2009 F150 I'm still driving :) 97 Exporer V6 SOHC D-Benz engine still drive it w/ 238K. Like Fords! Also like the Saab 9-3 I bought off my brother about 4 yrs ago. REALLY fun little turbo to wheel aruund in. Can't seem to get the Bridgstone G7 z series to squeal at all :roll: :D
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Re: More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:26 pm

Well,this thread brought tears to my eyes.....From laughing so HARD ! My earliest memories from 4 wheeled turds rusting away in the driveway started with the Old Man's 63' Chevy Wagon. It went straight to Hell from there...67' Volkswagen Campmobile,The vaunted 72'Ford Wagon(It came with a gas trailer to keep it on the road during long trips,which rusted out,too),78'BuHog LeSabre,83'Chebby1/2 ton....All vanished into a N.E. Ohio Rust-Belt Fog ! I almost forgot,the 71'Jeep CJ-5.....I literally had to cut that up for the Old Man when the frame cracked in half right there in the driveway.....Swore he was 'gonna put 1 mercy-kill round into it before the torch came out.... :sick:
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Re: More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:29 am

One of lifes mysteries to me is why people continue to buy Detroit c rap.
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Re: More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:33 am

Who else makes a good one-ton truck?
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Re: More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:33 am

For the outrageous price they all want,I'm thinking no one. I'm about ready to pull one out of the Western Desert States,bring it home,and do a complete frame-off restoration. My Way....Protect it against the battery acid called brine on the Ohio roads and get it under the E-Check Smog Testing rules and go from there. Money out is money out,and it least you have the freedom to put a "Smitty Build" on the complete drivetrain. If I wanted a living room on wheels,I'd buy a new 1 ton and go broke paying for it. I'd rather go broke doing the frame-off,and have something to show for it,paid off in full. That way,when I'd take it out on it's maiden road voyage,I could encounter a drunk,a deer,or some Loophead texting on a cell phone that would take out both me and the truck ! :fear:
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Re: More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:02 am

That's my line of thinkin too Bob. I made the mistake of buying this luxury car with a bed for WAY too much money. MA sure loved me for that one - paid out the ass for taxes. Still am 6 years later! Ball joints smoked at 38k .... 6 brake jobs in 6 years .... folded like a tin can after backing into a sapling at less than walking speed (over $2k in repairs!!) ... GM can't build 'em right either. Doubt anyone can these days - the almighty dollar comes before quality. That's the 21st century way! :sick:

I'll be doing the same thing Bob once this truck takes a *censored*. Scour the net, fly out to AZ for a week and drive my new to me classic home. Then build it RIGHT.
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Re: More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

PostBy: mmcoal On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:57 am

coalnewbie wrote:One of lifes mysteries to me is why people continue to buy Detroit c rap.

What's the difference? Just about every auto maker seems to make c rap today anyway. Some people have good luck with car "A" where as some people have a nightmare with car "A". I have heard just as many problem stories with foreign cars as with domestic cars. The best is when you get a die hard foreign car fan who rattles off the thousands in repairs they have been spending and still brags about how great the car is.
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Re: More modern JUNK. Thanks Ford, for building 'em ... "tough"

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:25 am

mmcoal wrote:
coalnewbie wrote:One of lifes mysteries to me is why people continue to buy Detroit c rap.

What's the difference? Just about every auto maker seems to make c rap today anyway. Some people have good luck with car "A" where as some people have a nightmare with car "A". I have heard just as many problem stories with foreign cars as with domestic cars. The best is when you get a die hard foreign car fan who rattles off the thousands in repairs they have been spending and still brags about how great the car is.


:doh: :rofl: I work with a bunch of numbnuts like that. My toyota has 150xxx and still running strong, thye fail to mention the replaced engine components or the new tranny lol. Heard this a million times. Its mechanical, IT WILL BREAK EVENTUALLY! Too many wishy washers dont think about that. Metal, heat, friction guess what happens dumbass. Some preventive maintenance just prolongs the enevitable and saves ya a buck or 2 ;)
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