Ron Paul and the Republican ticket

Just because a candidate has strong religious beliefs does NOT mean they are going to act on them in legislation. For 99.9% of the population including myself, religious beliefs are a private matter. I don't go preaching or pushing them on anybody, & neither does any religous (American, anyways) politician.

Mitt Romney was caught CONFIRMING this without his knowledge while being filmed off-air at a radio station many years back. He said "My religion is for ME", after being asked if his beliefs would shape how he governs. Of course, the media will never air this clip because it doesn't suit their agenda of using emotion and 30 year old events to tarnish Romney in any way possible. They took the part about abortion and ran with it. I can't find the clip to save my life, but the abortion part of it is plastered all over every search engine & news station. Surprise, surprise ...

Romney's faith does NOT ALLOW alcohol consumption. SO if you believe these emotionally charged lefties, when he was governor of MA he must've banned liquor.

Quite the contrary. For as long as I had been alive, liquor COULD NOT BE BOUGHT ON SUNDAYS ... until Mitt Romney changed that law. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

There once was Texan by the name of Ross Perot that played the "spoiler" in Bush seniors re-election bid. He split the vote on the republican side of the ticket. Will Ron Paul do the same thing ?

I had no idea that Mitt permitted liquor sales on Sunday, what a man, one hell of an accomplishment, guess he's invested in liquor as well as the Sands in Vegas.

Unless the spoiled children get with the program & suck it up---YES, it could well happen--I'm just amazed that girly RP has not stated that he will support Romney & stay on the sidelines sharing his thoughts & ideas with him Interesting theory about liquer sales--NOT

plumb-r wrote:There once was Texan by the name of Ross Perot that played the "spoiler" in Bush seniors re-election bid. He split the vote on the republican side of the ticket. Will Ron Paul do the same thing ?

plumb-r wrote:There once was Texan by the name of Ross Perot that played the "spoiler" in Bush seniors re-election bid. He split the vote on the republican side of the ticket. Will Ron Paul do the same thing ?

For the most part I believe that Ron Paul supporters will either abstain, or vote for Gary Johnson. Since his overall popularity never resided within the body of those who call themselves Republicans to begin with, there will be little impact on the outcome of the election from the Ron Paul supporters.

I find it hilarious how lefties freak out about religion .... but now, if you take a look over at the DNC, you'll find they're having a JUMA - yeah, that's Islamic - complete with radical speakers. They give our enemies a platform, AND a voice, but it's the Christians & Evangelicals that are "extreme".

You guys are something else!

samhill wrote:I had no idea that Mitt permitted liquor sales on Sunday, what a man, one hell of an accomplishment, guess he's invested in liquor as well as the Sands in Vegas.

I give you a concrete, real example - proof - of how Romney's religion WILL NOT affect his presidency .... and you mock it.

There's just no getting through to you Sam. Your a diehard moonbat, complete with their tactics.

Abstain to vote or vote for Gary Johnson (whoever he is). Mine as well go vote for Obummer. When will people stop throwing their little temper tantrums. My guy didn't get nominated so I'm going to throw the election. There are two people that have a snowballs chance in h ll of getting elected. 4 more years of the same, will kill this country.A non vote or a vote for someone that does'nt stand a chance is a as good as a vote for Obama.

plumb-r wrote:Abstain to vote or vote for Gary Johnson (whoever he is). Might as well go vote for Obummer. When will people stop throwing their little temper tantrums. My guy didn't get nominated so I'm going to throw the election. There are two people that have a snowballs chance in h ll of getting elected. 4 more years of the same, will kill this country.A non vote or a vote for someone that doesn't stand a chance is a as good as a vote for Obama.

I for one never expected Ron Paul to be nominated as a Republican, and I thought he should run for President as a Libertarian (just as he did in 1988, when he was their nominee). I'm on record as sitting this election out on principles. And as to principles, I believe that President Obama is more true to his core principles than is Mitt Romney. I'm sitting it out strictly because I believe that both candidates core principles (which may quite likely differ from their stated platforms) are fundamentally evil. If for some reason I do change my mind, I will then vote for Gary Johnson, because overall his principles (though not all to my liking) are more in line with mine then either President Obama or Mitt Romney.

SMITTY wrote: - proof - of how Romney's religion WILL NOT affect his presidency ....

I think you are right. I suspect that for Romney and many like him, religion is more of a social disease -- excuse me, a social phenomenon -- than it is a true belief system. Anybody who really BELIEVES all those Mormon teachings is a certifiable moonbat. We say nothing about other religious beliefs....

Sometimes I can't believe the things I read. Bottom line, you are either a part of the solution or part of the problem. How'd that work for ya in 88? So now I'll just bite my lip & stop typing

lsayre wrote:

plumb-r wrote:Abstain to vote or vote for Gary Johnson (whoever he is). Might as well go vote for Obummer. When will people stop throwing their little temper tantrums. My guy didn't get nominated so I'm going to throw the election. There are two people that have a snowballs chance in h ll of getting elected. 4 more years of the same, will kill this country.A non vote or a vote for someone that doesn't stand a chance is a as good as a vote for Obama.

I for one never expected Ron Paul to be nominated as a Republican, and I thought he should run for President as a Libertarian (just as he did in 1988, when he was their nominee). I'm on record as sitting this election out on principles. And as to principles, I believe that President Obama is more true to his core principles than is Mitt Romney. I'm sitting it out strictly because I believe that both candidates core principles (which may quite likely differ from their stated platforms) are fundamentally evil. If for some reason I do change my mind, I will then vote for Gary Johnson, because overall his principles (though not all to my liking) are more in line with mine then either President Obama or Mitt Romney.

freetown fred wrote:Sometimes I can't believe the things I read. Bottom line, you are either a part of the solution or part of the problem. How'd that work for ya in 88? So now I'll just bite my lip & stop typing

I'm part of the solution. 1988 was also part of the solution. There only need to be more people willing to integrate the solution parts, so they can become a whole solution, and I'm working on it. Some things apparently just take time, and also a lot of pain and suffering for one and all. I'm not sure just how much more suffering we will endure by endlessly voting for the establishment Democrat or establishment Republican puppet, but my prayer is that at some juncture before we reach pure unadulterated totalitarianism and witness mass extinction we will rise above the false left/right paradigm (wherein both roads lead downward to the same ultimate fate).

lsayre wrote:

freetown fred wrote:Sometimes I can't believe the things I read. Bottom line, you are either a part of the solution or part of the problem. How'd that work for ya in 88? So now I'll just bite my lip & stop typing

I'm part of the solution. 1988 was also part of the solution. There only need to be more people willing to integrate the solution parts, so they can become a whole solution, and I'm working on it. Some things apparently just take time, and also a lot of pain and suffering for one and all. I'm not sure just how much more suffering we will endure by endlessly voting for the establishment Democrat or establishment Republican puppet, but my prayer is that at some juncture before we reach pure unadulterated totalitarianism and witness mass extinction we will rise above the false left/right paradigm (wherein both roads lead downward to the same ultimate fate).

You know I like most of what you write, but I think you have thrown out logic in favor of eloquence. The paradigm of the right certainly favors Libertarianism far more than does the left. There even was discussion by the analysts how much Libertarian thinking is influencing the convention. I don;t think Mitt Romney will be anybodies puppet. his history denies that. If you heard his economic adviser tonight you would have heard some serious and meaningful talk. The only way your position makes sense to me is that you would like to hurry along a crisis by the election of Obama to finally muster enough support for a Paul type program.

plumb-r wrote:Abstain to vote or vote for Gary Johnson (whoever he is). Mine as well go vote for Obummer. When will people stop throwing their little temper tantrums. My guy didn't get nominated so I'm going to throw the election. There are two people that have a snowballs chance in h ll of getting elected. 4 more years of the same, will kill this country.A non vote or a vote for someone that does'nt stand a chance is a as good as a vote for Obama.

If we get Obama or Romney it is pretty much the same old BS. Such a choice is a illusion. I'm upset but I'm not having a tantrum. I just know if I want to make a difference voting for the Dempublicans isn't going to do it. I'm done supporting more of the same. I'm sorry you think Romney will make a difference. The joke is on you. He is CFR so nothing IMPORTANT will change, just the window dressing. He might not be a member but look at the company he keeps. This country is already mortally wounded. It is just going to take a while before that reality sets in. I know a lot of people think I'm a gloom and doomer. I don't think we will know who is right for a while. Five years ago I would be saying the same thing as you plumb-r at least until McCain got nominated. I'm tired of being lied to. Being pragmatic got us here. Democrats and Republicans are two heads of the same snake.

franco b wrote:You know I like most of what you write, but I think you have thrown out logic in favor of eloquence. The paradigm of the right certainly favors Libertarianism far more than does the left. There even was discussion by the analysts how much Libertarian thinking is influencing the convention. I don;t think Mitt Romney will be anybodies puppet. his history denies that. If you heard his economic adviser tonight you would have heard some serious and meaningful talk. The only way your position makes sense to me is that you would like to hurry along a crisis by the election of Obama to finally muster enough support for a Paul type program.

WHAT...in his history indicates he WON'T be a puppet?

The guy has been on every side of every issue.

I got news for you, the fact that he is in the running to be POTUS means he is ALREADY a puppet.