It's Bush's Fault!

Re: It's Bush's Fault!

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:40 pm

Then why don't you & a few of those that think like you (if any) volunteer to go over & straighten that mess out? How you get that I want to annex them I'll never know. Perhaps you need glasses or if you have them get the script checked.
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Re: It's Bush's Fault!

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:41 pm

homecomfort wrote:former president Bush had 8 years of unimpeded rule to create the financial meltdown, recession, whatever you want to call it. and he did a bang up job of that. Now Prez. Obama has only had less than 4 years, of totally obstructed, hamstrung, uncooperative from the republican held house, to straighten out his mess. Mitch mcconnels speech 3 years ago to do nothing else but to see obama as a one termer says it all.


Homecomfort - Please pay attention here.

For the first 2 years of his 3 1/2 years of being president, obama had control of the house, senate and the presidency. He had a veto proof majority in the senate. He wasn't "hamstrung or obstructed" by anything other than his own incompetence and lack of experience. Also please remember he didn't "inherit this mess", he campainged to take it on. He's blown it by taking advice from far left wing advisers and following his own far left instincts. He's "Failed Forward.'
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Re: It's Bush's Fault!

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:15 am

CK, inherit is just a term as to what was left him, it is & was worse than anyone thought. If you remember back both he & McCain when back to DC for special meetings to decide on the TARP. Perhaps the bottom dropped before Cheney & Co. wanted it too but the election was right around the corner by then. The Houses were then as now still controlled in a large degree by Lobbyists & Big Money just look at how this election is trying to be bought, if that so called American money that is so freely thrown around trying to influence an election for "The Good of America" would instead be put directly towards creating jobs or paying down the debt we would be in better shape already but the problem isn't what can be done to help the country rather than who can I spend money on that's going to help me. If you notice some even play on both sides of the middle to be covered either way.
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Re: It's Bush's Fault!

PostBy: homecomfort On: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:41 pm

coalkirk wrote:
homecomfort wrote:former president Bush had 8 years of unimpeded rule to create the financial meltdown, recession, whatever you want to call it. and he did a bang up job of that. Now Prez. Obama has only had less than 4 years, of totally obstructed, hamstrung, uncooperative from the republican held house, to straighten out his mess. Mitch mcconnels speech 3 years ago to do nothing else but to see obama as a one termer says it all.


Homecomfort - Please pay attention here.

For the first 2 years of his 3 1/2 years of being president, obama had control of the house, senate and the presidency. He had a veto proof majority in the senate. He wasn't "hamstrung or obstructed" by anything other than his own incompetence and lack of experience. Also please remember he didn't "inherit this mess", he campainged to take it on. He's blown it by taking advice from far left wing advisers and following his own far left instincts. He's "Failed Forward.'

incompetence is a republican strong hold, grasshopper!.
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Re: It's Bush's Fault!

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:21 pm

Coalkirk,

Why do you bother to present irrefutable facts to the leftys? Ya gotta give credit to Sam for his endurance, see if you can get him to answer a direct question.

I.E. : Sam: you have mentioned your disdain for "welfare scum" a thousand times here; so briefly explain why you support the welfare state and its champion Marxist ?

Doesn't look like Homecomfort is going away, with his repetitive and juvenile "everything is the republicans fault mantra. It's gotten boring.

Amazes me how gullible so many Americans are to fall hook line and sinker for the Marxist "hate the rich" class warfare. They don't celebrate success, they are jealous of it.

Here's a simple fact: 5% of Americans pay 57% of the taxes, while 50% of Americans now pay nothing.

They have the same opportunities available to them as the hard working, clever, and ambitious "rich". But they don't have the courage or endurance to succeed, so they lash out at anybody that appears successful to them.
Pathetic
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Re: It's Bush's Fault!

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:23 pm

Well said Dan. 8-)

homecomfort wrote:incompetence is a republican strong hold, grasshopper!.

Yeah homie, democrats are just sooooo much better! :rofl: Boy, your a smart one! :rofl: :rofl: :doh:

Check the unemployment rate lately? The REAL one, not the voodoo economics one put forth by this incompetent White House ....
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Re: It's Bush's Fault!

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:58 pm

Dann, lets talk about what all the cons have done about welfare having been in power the majority the last few decades, Clinton put in the welfare to work program & despite what you cons want to think it's still there only as per request the states have more control.
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Re: It's Bush's Fault!

PostBy: plantman48832 On: Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:43 pm

We can go one for days blaming Dems and Repubs, and get no where. I am a small business owner in Central Michigan. I am very concerned about the new taxes that we will be required to pay due to the new health care law. And I really believe that this "group" on this site should all be VERY CONCERNED about the EPA's total assault on coal issues in this country. The EPA needs to be stopped, and it looks as though it is not going to be stopped by the current admin.

Over the past 12 months in our county here 336 new "wind generators" have sprouted up. They are really cool to look at, however they, in the long run will cost us far more is subsidies than "power" that they will generate. Regulations in this country are KILLING small business, and it needs to stop......NOW. Small business in the engine that drives this GREAT country that we live in and it seems as though MANY have forgotten that.

We are involved in the agriculture sector.......sustainable farm, greenhouses, on farm food processing, and the new regs that are coming down by the USDA and the FDA are absolutely insane. Probably a bit off track here, but just had to vent.
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Re: It's Bush's Fault!

PostBy: homecomfort On: Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:59 pm

Tax rates for everyone, especially the richest, are now the lowest in many decades. Cons. Quit yer pissin' and moanin' about paying the tab for living and doing business in the greatest country on the planet. and be grateful that we survived 8 years of total incompetency, greed and lunacy, and now have a brain in charge!!.
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Re: It's Bush's Fault!

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:12 pm

homecomfort wrote: living and doing business in the greatest country on the planet.


Demonstrably untrue.

What metric are you using?
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Re: It's Bush's Fault!

PostBy: Dann757 On: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:25 am

homecomfort wrote:Tax rates for everyone, especially the richest, are now the lowest in many decades. Cons. Quit yer pissin' and moanin' about paying the tab for living and doing business in the greatest country on the planet. and be grateful that we survived 8 years of total incompetency, greed and lunacy, and now have a brain in charge!!.


You are as blind as Stevie Wonder, except he has talent. Corporate tax rates in the US are the highest in the world. You got nothin'.

Barry Quotes:
" Ima cut the deficit in half!"
" Ima has the most transparent administration in history!"
" Ima have more flexibility after my last election, Mr. Medvedev!"
" Ima create 4 million jobs!"
" Ima close Gitmo!"
" Ima try terrorists in a civilian court in NYC!"
" Gimme dat stimulus, Ima gonna keep de umenployment below 8% wid dat!"
" So I blew a half billion on the Solyndra and got nothing, it aint my money!"

You're blind and deaf, too bad you're not mute :!:
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Re: It's Bush's Fault!

PostBy: Dann757 On: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:42 am

samhill wrote:Dann, lets talk about what all the cons have done about welfare having been in power the majority the last few decades,


Black welfare has increased tremendously under liberal policies since the early 60's. Great way to lift the people up, get them dependant on welfare and pay them to have more babies.

Obama has gutted Clinton's welfare reforms and made it even easier to live off the dole. Don't mention the Obama administrations radio ads encouraging able bodied citizens to get food stamps. Don't mention any of the other horrors we've endured the last 4 years. Don't mention the opposition to sensible immigration reform and the billions spent on welfare for illegals. You couldn't see a Marxist soft revolution if your eyes were pinned open.

Didn't answer my simple question did ya Sam?
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Re: It's Bush's Fault!

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:57 am

Dann, I've told you before & I'll say it again check your so called facts, the only welfare reform in decades has been by Dems. On another note is there any group besides lilly white elite tax evading business owners that you don't totally despise? I have to at least give you credit for blatantly coming out & expressing that anyhow.
What you always choose to ignore is the simple fact that if you don't have a job it's kind of hard to pay income tax, they still however pay tax on everything they buy. Some how or another the cons plan is to lower taxes on everyone but mostly the top %s & businesses while increasing military spending to balance the budget & pay down debt, my first wife knew about that method decades ago.
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