You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

You've never voted in MA , Sam. I can tell.

Walk in & tell them your street address - that's it. Then you vote. This is PRECISELY why MA government is so frigged up.

rberq wrote:Give us a break, already! It's either that or buy the Supreme Court like in 2000!

After what this president has done to this country, voting for him either means you know nothing about America ... or you hate the Constitution. How anyone can vote for this guy is just way beyond my grasp. I just don't get it! I am AMAZED to no end that anyone even attends the DNC after the crap this administration has pulled the past nearly 4 years. Just shows people are blind or ignorant ... or both ... or they just don't give a *censored* about America. I'm done trying to figure them out ....

If there is a law or regulation stating who is eligible to vote then clearly some means have to be provided to verify that eligibility. Constructing a scenario of possible hardship to someone does not cancel out the need for verification. Almost every law causes hardship or inconvenience to somebody. This is so obvious that the motives of those who object clearly are in favor of voter fraud.

rberq wrote: For example, take a student from Kansas attending college in Colorado. Should he be allowed to vote in a federal election?

A far a students go I don't think they should be voting in the district where the school is but instead where they live.They can vote by absentee ballot. I'm not sure how you go about determining "student status" and it would open a can of worms. The only reason I say that is an issue arose a few years back about the local arena and public funding. It went up for a vote in the local election and those supporting the arena were courting the college students, those people will be long gone and the community is stuck with the bill.

His driver's license is from Kansas. He can't show a Colorado tax bill or electric bill or pay slip. So if those are the acceptable forms of ID in Colorado, his choice is to travel back to Kansas to vote, or to not vote. It is pretty obvious, from some GOP-backed regulations, that the intent is exactly that: to keep college students from voting.

I don't know about the rest of the states but here in PA ID from a College/University is acceptable as is one from long term health care facility. One of the issues is it needs an expiration date which some don't have so those facilities will have to accommodate the students and elderly with new ID. There is other forms of acceptable ID like military, any government ID. There is even a form I saw for indigent voters with no home. If you fail to produce ID in November you can still vote with provisional ballot but will have to produce valid ID in 6 or 10 days. I forget which.

The law here was passed in March. They requested ID in the primary but it wasn't required to vote. It's had a massive amount of news coverage and they sent letters to every registered voter without a corresponding PA ID. At this point in time you'd have to live under a rock to not know what the law is.

The argument is specious at best, how can you possibly not have ID considering the many things you need it for?

Richard S. wrote: ..... The argument is specious at best, how can you possibly not have ID considering the many things you need it for?

Exactly. When I was in my 20's, I lost my license for too many speeding tickets in a one year period. I couldn't do ANYTHING! Couldn't go to any clubs, any bars with a band playing, the liquor store ... couldn't even get my asthma medication that I desperately needed!! The state wanted me to buy a state ID for $20. Lots of people without drivers licenses had no choice.

Seems like common sense to me to require a license to vote.

Richard, strangely & uncommonly enough they have been doing it correctly in some states & for a change Pa. is one of them. Others don't seem to have the same logic, I do think however that it should have been started at the last Pres. election since many for some reason don't vote until then. I only tried to absentee vote one time & it was catastrophic but I attribute that to being in Miami at the time, still not sure if it's part of the U.S. or not, they sure didn't act like it. Luckily I got the chance to hop a flight back to Pa. for business & vote there but there was a ballot back in Miami waiting for me when I got back, don't know if you can send one in after the election or not but if so I could have done it & it may have slipped in.
In Crawford County there is only one photo ID center that I know of & only 3 or 4 days a week with limited hours & no bus service so many are screwed trying to get there.

Smitty, the way you feel about this Pres. is the way I feel about several in the past & history has proven me correct. Don't know what you believe that was so wrong or against the Constitution but if it were in this political environment I think he would have been impeached long ago if true.

Where do I start on that one ....

Fast N Furious, for starters. Funneling guns to Mexico to create a problem in order to pass a law that furthers his agenda. That ALONE, to me, is treasonous.

Creating "wilderness" zones along the border that prevent border patrol from doing their job. Another treasonous act.

Obamacare - 100% unconstitutional, no matter what the Supreme Court says.

Using the EPA & IRS as weapons against your enemies: Beck, Nugent, Limbaugh, O'Reilley - all audited by the IRS in Obama's first year. That;s more than a coincidence. EPA raided Gibson Guitar company with guns drawn over "illegal wood" imported from India. The EPA told them they could;ve avoided all this by assembling the guitars in INDIA -- so basically encouraging a business to pack up jobs & head overseas.

Hillary CLintons right hand (Huma Abadien [sp?] ) woman has DIRECT ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. Those who questioned that were called "racists".


This is just scratching the surface. More will come out as the years go on. I don't have all day to keep typing here either ...

SMITTY wrote:

Richard S. wrote: ..... The argument is specious at best, how can you possibly not have ID considering the many things you need it for?

Exactly. When I was in my 20's, I lost my license for too many speeding tickets in a one year period. I couldn't do ANYTHING! Couldn't go to any clubs, any bars with a band playing, the liquor store ... couldn't even get my asthma medication that I desperately needed!! The state wanted me to buy a state ID for $20. Lots of people without drivers licenses had no choice.

Seems like common sense to me to require a license to vote.

At the age of 33 I was carded at Best Buy to buy a video game.

The voter I.D. issue is only one aspect of the Marxist takeover...

http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/09/inter ... l-college/

SMITTY wrote:Obamacare - 100% unconstitutional, no matter what the Supreme Court says.

SCOTUS is a bit like the POPUS in ROMUS.
It's constitutional if they say it is, until they say it isn't.
Just like Catholic Mass on Sunday was obligatory when the Pope said it was, until he said it wasn't. Still awaiting word on whether those souls in Hell for skipping Sunday will now be rehabilitated and sent to Heaven....

This convention is just like the RNC you don't just decide you want to go, you need an invite, big deal.

samhill wrote:This convention is just like the RNC you don't just decide you want to go, you need an invite, big deal.

Being a citizen of voting age is your invite to vote in elections.

Richard, are you telling me that you or I or anyone could go to either or both conventions uninvited? If that were the case why were both sides offering a chance for a seat at their convention for a small monetary offering? My understanding is that it is open to delegates & selected guests, there isn't an arena in the world that could accommodate a any voter is welcome crowd. Sure you can vote but it won't get you into a convention, & not too forget there are those that have lost their right to vote by their own actions.

The convention has no bearing on the future of the nation -- it only lets the world know what the parties stand for. Couldn't care less if I ever attend one.

I already knew what dems stood for before the convention ....

samhill wrote:Richard, are you telling me that you or I or anyone could go to either or both conventions uninvited?

No they can't and if you haven't been "invited" to vote you shouldn't be voting.