You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

Re: You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

PostBy: rberq On: Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:26 am

SMITTY wrote:I already knew what dems stood for before the convention ....

Dem platform: A chicken in every pot. :)
GOP platform: A Jimmy in every garage. :sick:
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Re: You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

PostBy: buffalo bob On: Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:50 am

i just bet ya that if the welfare. food stamp. or the unemployment depts.
,said the checks\stamps would stop in one week these people would have picture id OVERNITE!!!!!!!!
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Re: You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

PostBy: homecomfort On: Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:13 am

new voter ID laws are only a ploy by the losing republican party to try to steal the election again, about the only way they can hope to "win", since more people are wising up to their antics, failed policies, and outright LIES. not all people unfortunately, but the country is made up of all kinds, of nuts.
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Re: You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:23 am

Seriously guy, you need to lay off the drugs - it's affecting your judgement.

You need an I.D. for EVERYTHING today. Think about it. The only reason dems fight so hard against this is because THEY ARE THE ONES BENEFITING FROM IT! A 3 year old child could figure that one out. It's blatantly obvious.
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Re: You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

PostBy: plumb-r On: Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:06 am

Did the republicans get "Acorn" to register dead people to vote? :no1: Did the republicans get the black panthers in Philadelphia to block voters from the poles? :no1: Too many other examples to list. Democrats are liars and cheats. "Homecomfort" if your going to throw something up on here you better prove it ,or just keep it to yourself . :nana:
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Re: You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:20 am

homecomfort wrote:new voter ID laws are only a ploy by the losing republican party to try to steal the election again, about the only way they can hope to "win", since more people are wising up to their antics, failed policies, and outright LIES. not all people unfortunately, but the country is made up of all kinds, of nuts.


Tell us just how proving that you are a citizen and you are whom you claim to be in order to vote is detrimental to the nation and to the honesty and integrity of the voting process and outcome.

Also tell us if illegals should have a right to vote.
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Re: You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:36 am

homecomfort wrote:new voter ID laws are only a ploy by the losing republican party to try to steal the election again, about the only way they can hope to "win", since more people are wising up to their antics, failed policies, and outright LIES. not all people unfortunately, but the country is made up of all kinds, of nuts.


Pew estimates that there is 24 million invalid or significantly inaccurate voter registrations in this country, this isn't a concern for you? Granted these aren't all fraudulent and most likely a majority of them aren't but certainly a percentage of them are. Voter fraud exists and that is just a fact, the only questions that remaina is the extent of it. I often hear the argument "where is the proof"? And my answer is where is the proof it doesn't exist? It's impossible to prove the extent of it no matter which side your arguing. Lack of convictions is not proof but there is plenty of examples of convictions and other things where you see irregularities like 100% voter turnout in some Philadelphia districts.

Something I point out is Florida's voter purge. They started with a bloated and woefully inaccurate list of 180K of potentially illegal registrations. That list was whittled down to 2600 and 100 people were removed from the rolls, nearly half of them voted in previous elections. Even more importantly half of those 100 people were from one smaller county in Florida alone that was very aggressive in removing them. If we extrapolate those numbers over every county in Florida that is enough votes to swing the Presidential election in 2000.

That's not a concern to you?
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Re: You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:42 am

It's not at all a bad idea in my book, just very a convenient timing & fairness wise not at all well thought out, you seem to focus on welfare recipients that I would guess had ID anyway & ignore all the elderly & the college students that can't really afford to return home to vote or rush around trying to get IDs, they don't all live in areas where it's convenient.
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Re: You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:49 am

Between someone who registers and has proper ID, and someone who does not register and can not provide proper ID, which is more likely to be a potential voter who is defrauding the system and the outcome of an election? Who is more likely to vote multiple times in different precincts?

I find it telling that the Democrats are mainly the ones promoting no voter ID checks. Could it be that they stand to lose the most if they do not let the voters run ruff-shod over the system? What does this say with regard to their morals and integrity?

PS: Off topic here, but the Democrats sham effort at putting God back into their party platform (where a 2/3 majority was required, and three times over the nays were every bit as loud, to perhaps louder than the yeahs, yet the yeahs won) speaks loudly as to their moral integrity. They would have been better off not trying to pull off that charade.
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Re: You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

PostBy: Coalfire On: Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:32 pm

samhill wrote: you seem to focus on welfare recipients



Someone that works at the local welfare office, said a month after obama took office they had to be retrained as how to get new incoming welfare recipiants registered to vote. Like that isn't lining the pot :roll: , if you want to this hand to keep feeding you, you need to vote for the hand that is doing it, wink, wink, nudge, nudge


The whole discussion on this id is ridiculous. I was at an auction toady, and I had to show Id to get a number, they couldn't take my word who I was. Anyone that thinks we don't need ID for voting seriously needs to have there head examined.



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Re: You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:36 pm

Coalfire wrote:The whole discussion on this id is ridiculous. I was at an auction toady, and I had to show Id to get a number, they couldn't take my word who I was. Anyone that thinks we don't need ID for voting seriously needs to have there head examined.



Eric


As I mentioned previously at the age of 33 I was carded at Best Buy to buy a video game.
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Re: You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:41 pm

How far ahead of time did you learn that you needed ID for that auction, paying cash or check, there have been AHs that have run prices up & won bids only to leave without paying.
Someone at the local bank said that if Romney gets in to get all your money out of everywhere you my have any savings.
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Re: You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:43 pm

samhill wrote:It's not at all a bad idea in my book, just very a convenient timing & fairness wise not at all well thought out.


I disagree with the timing argument because you very well this legislation would have never passed here in PA under Rendell for the previous 8 years before 2010.

Considering this law was passed in March, they were asking for ID's in the primary, all the new coverage and last but not least a letter sent to every registered voter without a corresponding PA ID what else you would suggest they should of done?
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Re: You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

PostBy: Coalfire On: Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:49 pm

samhill wrote:How far ahead of time did you learn that you needed ID for that auction, paying cash or check




Oh I already knew it, was just another point of ID needed.

And hence my statement, that this discussion shouldn't even be happening. Done and done. I can't believe these court cases, to try to overturn these voter id rules. All that tax money going down the tubes.


What did you think about the other part of my post about the welfare office you conviently did not comment on that :lol:



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Re: You'll need ID to prove your DEM., but NOT to vote ....

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:01 pm

Coalfire wrote: I can't believe these court cases, to try to overturn these voter id rules.


SCOTUS has already ruled Voter ID is constitutional, the only court cases will be at the state level. The one exception to that is the DOJ was able to go after Texas's voter ID law because they fall under the Voting Rights Act. Ultimately they will probably prevail in the courts because it would be a double standard otherwise. Their law is really not much different than the rest of them.
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