samhill wrote:Once again Jpete your logic astounds me, now you the Gov. money for these loans have always been there but just run by banks that reaped the profit from our money, a school takes X amt. of students. As one that is either going thru or as gone thru a Gov. paid education program yourself. You do realize don't you that there was a time that HVAC didn't require much more than HVAC knowledge the same as when I got my realtors license all I had to do was pass the test. Do half of the classes you now have to attend have anything at all to do with the job? I went into apprenticeship programs to get my trade journeyman papers, those costs to the Co. were minimal & more than paid for by my labor, the unqualified were quickly weeded out by a test given before hand that you took on your own time.
I understand that Sam. I'm living it. I'm just telling you how it is.
You're right, I really didn't need English I, English II and 3 liberal arts electives to learn how to fix air conditioners. Unfortunately, it's REQUIRED by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
to get the degree.
The government decided more people "should" get a degree so they applied the dollars. If you own a business, are you going to pay a guy with no degree to work while he learns or are you going to let the individual take on the cost and responsibility of learning the trade?
Especially if you know the government is paying for it or at least subsidizing it? You can require the degree, let the school weed out the bottom dwellers and pick from the rest.
And don't forget the other REQUIRED government licensing I need. I have to pass a four part EPA test to work on different types of refrigeration systems and I need a pipe fitting license with an electrical rating to work on heating appliances other than gas fueled. I need a different license for that.