Leader of the Free World

samhill wrote:Lets see, it took us something like 13 years from Declaration of Independence to the Constitution. How many months have these countries been at it?

It also took the DESIRE of the population to HAVE a constitution. Where is the evidence that these people even WANT one?

I think it has been spent in blood & lives, they want some form of Gov. different from what they had but it's gonna take some time & believe it or not you may not like it but it's up to them not the U.S.A..

samhill wrote:I think it has been spent in blood & lives, they want some form of Gov. different from what they had but it's gonna take some time & believe it or not you may not like it but it's up to them not the U.S.A..

I agree it's not up to us. I know that, and you know that.

But it doesn't change the fact that the US propped up the dictator they hated and then toppled him when they no longer met our needs.

That kind of makes it our responsibility.

I know thousands of neo con penises would shrivel to dust if we ever apologized(GASP!) for f*cking everything up and simply let them choose how to pick up the pieces, but that's the only smart course of action.

I see our foreign policy as breaking into my neighbors house, finding his wife so I rape her, then murder her to cover up the rape, burn his house down to cover up the murder and finally get outraged when he says I'm a criminal!

Now if your neighbors wife had been raped & murdered but his daughters were still in there with the B*****d would you be calling him names & telling him he wouldn't dare do anything else or would try to BS him by telling him he could get away now if he does no more?

Could you say that again in English?

Your the one that set up the example with your neighbor, OK I read it again & I see now that your the rapist & murderer, sorry I misread, didn't think you had it in you. But if you had just done the wife & his daughters were in there with you do you think it would be a wise move to threaten you at that point?
If this whole thing is actually about the embassy the first release was before any rioting started not after the whole thing was over, they didn't even know what had become the end result until many hours afterward.

Hey Samayyyy! What's happenin brutha?

Can't argue with some of your points. But I heard The White Hut knew of this impending tragedy 48 hours prior. This is Obama's baby, and what an ugly baby it is.

I aint even mad, just reached the 3/4 mark on the house I'm painting. Had a brief discussion with the Harvard teacher that owns the house. She's quite clueless like her alumnus brother Barry. She thinks Islam is a peaceful religion and that viral video trailer was the cause of the current jam we're in.

I will examine my outlook that they all are nothing but troublemakers; maybe I can somehow reach a conclusion that it's just a few of them that hate us.

There's 1.4 billion muslims in the world, 20% of the population.
There's 12 million Jews in the world, .2% of the world's population.
Now if you look at the number of Nobel prizes won, you will see that the Jews have 165 and the Muslims have 6.

http://www.jewishmag.com/99mag/nobel/nobel.htm

Barry has thrown Israel under the bus as we all know. I guess he prefers a world full of ignorant rioters to our highly intelligent allies.

Dann757 wrote:
There's 1.4 billion muslims in the world, 20% of the population.
There's 12 million Jews in the world, .2% of the world's population.
Now if you look at the number of Nobel prizes won, you will see that the Jews have 165 and the Muslims have 6.

And the current resident of the WH has one. You sure you want to use that yard stick?

Hey Dann boy, why is it that Romney knew that a embassy had been breached before it had? http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics ... a-20120912

You sure you want to use that yard stick?

Yes, 'cause if he can win a peace prize then I can win the Physics prize for playing Pooh Sticks down by the duck pond, I've just got to pretend to agree with Sam and his buddies. Psst, they don't get given out to anyone to the right of Carl Marx. Come to think of it they are now so depreciated... if I have to fly to Sweden to pick it up, damned cold.... hmmmm... I'll have to think about that one.

samhill wrote:Well Dann, are you getting yourself in shape because with the way you want to wage war on every other country I think that even with modern tech they are still going to need a few, nevermind.

extreme right wing republican radicals do not actually advocate putting themselves into harm's way, let someone else do that. and under their former comm.(Bush) in chief, no need for armor plate on humvees, or bullet proof vests, soldiers can buy their own. these war mongers do not make good fighters anyway, crying and whimpering in the foxhole is a dead giveaway to the enemy.

homecomfort wrote:extreme right wing republican radicals do not actually advocate putting themselves into harm's way, let someone else do that. and under their former comm.(Bush) in chief, no need for armor plate on humvees, or bullet proof vests, soldiers can buy their own. these war mongers do not make good fighters anyway, crying and whimpering in the foxhole is a dead giveaway to the enemy.

You are a childish contributor with nothing relevant to say in any of these conversations. You only write to provoke negative reactions in those that disagree with you. You are incapable of intelligent discourse. When you provoke a reaction, it gives you a sense of being powerful; indicative of your inability to recognize your own insecurity.

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Sam, you're deflecting the issue and concentrating on an irrelevancy. Obama's weak foreign policy has just resulted in the eruption of a worldwide Islamic riot. There were evacuations at American Universities today. I hope you sleep well tonight. Don't forget to catch Barry on Letterman talking about celebrities and rap disc jockeys. He has time for partying, but no time for Netanyahu.

Like I said Dann, better a riot there than here, could be that a over a decade long occupation is getting old over there. They lost more key players in the last 3&1/2 years & have had to be on the run ever since heck for all we know this could be their last hurrah, Obama has had to try & repair of 8 years of failed buffoon diplomacy where if you don't like it we''ll send our bombers, that gets old as well. Maybe Mitt & G.W. can get together with the old cheerleader crew & go over there & make it all better, lets see Nit Mitt has five, how many would go to war?

homecomfort wrote: or bullet proof vests, soldiers can buy their own..

Not true. Soldiers are expressly forbidden from buying their own armor. Can't have good old capitalism provide a superior product(Dragonskin) and take the money out of the war profiteers pockets!

Just don't get yourself shot and get blood on THEIR armor or you'll be charged with destruction of government property and have to give your enlistment bonus back!

samhill wrote:Like I said Dann, better a riot there than here,

OK here's a rational response. Of course we don't want riots here. We look at the same situations and have diametrically opposed political rationalizations for those views. Some say the internet polarizes us even more, rather than enhance us with its diversity of information.

I'm actually conceeding that I'm willing to look at your view that all the trouble we're in is still the result of previous Republican policies. I look at that viewpoint, and then all the information I've gleaned tells me unequivocally that is not totally the case.


However, I should try harder to respect and understand your outlook; but us conservatives have been astounded at the liberal mentality. We're saying, "It doesn't make sense."
So if you're a true liberal, who understands we're in opposite endzones; isn't it you that should be the first to make attempts to meet in the middle?

Your last link was so interesting, did you read the comments? That place could have been a mirror of this one. Opposing views ad infinitum.

I honestly feel ashamed sometimes that I blast you; but you have said you're not made of glass, as we all have seen. And the reason is that you are a veteran. You of all people should get respect, even if you are as left as you indicate.