Court strikes down Wisconsin's Collective Bargaining Law

Court strikes down Wisconsin's Collective Bargaining Law

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:45 am

Courts uphold Obamacare (clearly socialist), but strike down Wisconsin's collective bargaining law (clearly republican, using this term here not as in reference to any political party, but rather as in conformance with our nation being a republic and not a democracy).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/wisconsin-collective-bargaining-law_n_1885601.html


Yet one more prime example of legislating from the bench from leftist/socialist leaning judges. Apparently is is not OK to overturn a properly implemented and legislatively voted upon law if it is socialist leaning, but it is fine and proper to do so if it is not.
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Re: Court strikes down Wisconsin's Collective Bargaining Law

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:57 am

If I were Walker, I'd give the unions everything they wanted and then some.

Then I'd resign, tell the taxpayers "Good luck" and move to a low tax state.

Or they could send all the residents on a vacation to RI to see what a state that already did that looks like.
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Re: Court strikes down Wisconsin's Collective Bargaining Law

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:28 am

That would be the only appropriate and honorable thing to do! It reminds me of a quote from the famous news reporter H.L. Mencken, dating from sometime back in the 1920's or 1930's.

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. "
H. L. Mencken
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Re: Court strikes down Wisconsin's Collective Bargaining Law

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:15 pm

It's just too bad that there can't be a balance and a common interest in the well being of our nation. I don't understand how a law can be passed, and then some seemingly random picked liberal judge can overturn it; citing their twisted interpretation of the Constitution as justification.

Of course I think workers should be protected from abuse; but when they get so greedy and the abuse goes in the opposite direction, it's not good either.
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Re: Court strikes down Wisconsin's Collective Bargaining Law

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:52 pm

jpete wrote:Then I'd resign, tell the taxpayers "Good luck" and move to a low tax state.


Considering he was elected not once but twice :P ..... You really can't blame the majority of the residents. They are claiming it's a liberal judge so I guess we'll find out what happens on the inevitable appeal.
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Re: Court strikes down Wisconsin's Collective Bargaining Law

PostBy: Mark (PA) On: Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:37 pm

Without jumping into this Union battle headlong.

I would agree 100% with Dann757

I am a member of a very large union in this country. I am also involved on the bargaining committee for said union.

All and all I strive for balance in everything. Realizing not everyone feels this way of course but Balance is good. Unions can't have it all and by the same chip I don't feel corporate America should always cry wolf un-necessarily either.

Companies and Unions both can at times go to extremes and it is not good. Unions and their membership need to understand companies may not always be able to support what they once were able too (obviously Pensions and the accounting of those Pension's dollar wise is a big example of this). And vice Versa Corporate Greed in some area's is a real and existing issue where constantly taking money from the working class and feeding the Upper Management by way of huge bonuses and stock options is not balance either.

Many large corporations pay a CEO X million's of dollars and then don't mention that he/she gets XX millions more per year in bonuses. Again. Not balance at all.


I guess we'll see what happens. I certainly walk on both sides of this street daily.
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Re: Court strikes down Wisconsin's Collective Bargaining Law

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:41 pm

Mark (PA) wrote:
I am a member of a very large union in this country. I am also involved on the bargaining committee for said union.


Public or private?

There's a difference.
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Re: Court strikes down Wisconsin's Collective Bargaining Law

PostBy: Mark (PA) On: Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:48 pm

Private

And true you are right there is a difference....

Although Wide sweeping legislation sometimes doesn't recognize that difference either.
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Re: Court strikes down Wisconsin's Collective Bargaining Law

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:03 pm

Mark (PA) wrote:Private

And true you are right there is a difference....

Although Wide sweeping legislation sometimes doesn't recognize that difference either.


But the Wisconsin law only dealt with public unions. The attempts to make it about ALL unions was a red herring from the unions.

A couple big differences between public and private is that private unions don't get to lobby/vote for/against the people they are sitting across the bargaining table from and they never have to worry the company is going to pull stakes and move to a different state/country.
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Re: Court strikes down Wisconsin's Collective Bargaining Law

PostBy: Ed.A On: Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:05 pm

Thank You Jeff....only people like us can understand what Communists little brother can do to a state.
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