Obama Can't Remember

Re: Obama Can't Remember

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:23 am

Come on Pete, be fair now can't you see the man is busy. Bibi will just have to wait.
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Re: Obama Can't Remember

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:28 am

Jpete, if you don't have the money to pay bills but still have to provide services how are you going to spend less? We spend more on the military than most other developed countries combined even without the wars. Either we have many other things coming out of that budget (which we do) but even with that we are being gouged to death by suppliers & contractors & their middlemen.
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Re: Obama Can't Remember

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:36 am

samhill wrote:Jpete, if you don't have the money to pay bills but still have to provide services how are you going to spend less? We spend more on the military than most other developed countries combined even without the wars. Either we have many other things coming out of that budget (which we do) but even with that we are being gouged to death by suppliers & contractors & their middlemen.


So did he make cuts or not Sam?

You really ought to run for office because you have double talk mastered.

First you say he made cuts, then give every reason why cuts can't be made.

You're unreal.
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Re: Obama Can't Remember

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:12 pm

I'll type this real slow Jpete, he made cuts from the Medicare budget as I understand it because the cons keep itching about it, maybe they haven't been made yet. All other cuts have been nixed by Congress, it's easy to forget Congress because they have sworn to do nothing to help THIS President from day one & they do it well. Cuts have been proposed many times but the sides won't give, they would much rather see the country suffer than to compromise, they do as always & kick the can down the road or wait too long & lower the credit rating for the first time. The cuts are there, the so called super committee that both sides promised to have come up with a solution or have mandatory across the budget cuts are there, it just takes honorable men to stick to their word that we are lacking.
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Re: Obama Can't Remember

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:23 pm

samhill wrote:I'll type this real slow Jpete, he made cuts from the Medicare budget as I understand it because the cons keep itching about it, maybe they haven't been made yet. All other cuts have been nixed by Congress, it's easy to forget Congress because they have sworn to do nothing to help THIS President from day one & they do it well. Cuts have been proposed many times but the sides won't give, they would much rather see the country suffer than to compromise, they do as always & kick the can down the road or wait too long & lower the credit rating for the first time. The cuts are there, the so called super committee that both sides promised to have come up with a solution or have mandatory across the budget cuts are there, it just takes honorable men to stick to their word that we are lacking.


He took $700 billion out of Medicaid to fund Obamacare. That's hardly a cut.

The Republicans are committed to work against him, as anyone would expect.

But his own party voted against his last proposed budget(3 years ago?)

Let me guess, they are all Republicans in disguise?
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Re: Obama Can't Remember

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:39 pm

I told you a long time ago that most in the Houses work for Lobbyists. You say that Cons should work against him, I think that from day one after each gets into office they should be working for all, not by the party for the party as you seem to think. As I said the cuts were there for honorable men & women to honor, we should have across the board cuts with nothing left untouched, Bush tax cuts expired for one & all & the elimination of all tax loopholes including all income being considered income no matter where it comes from.
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Re: Obama Can't Remember

PostBy: Dann757 On: Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:16 pm

Smart men don't discuss religion or politics. and then there's all of us. :D This is like an endless surreal carousel with the brass ring of being right always just out of reach. :)

samhill wrote:it's easy to forget Congress because they have sworn to do nothing to help THIS President from day one & they do it well.


Except when do nothing Obama had complete control of both houses for two years.

samhill wrote:it just takes honorable men to stick to their word that we are lacking.


Nobody is gonna say you're wrong there. Easier in our simple lives to be honorable. We don't seek power and glory and don't have huge responsibilities and temptations. All we want is the right to pursue happiness as guaranteed by the Constitution, right? Obama seeks to undermine The Constitution by any means possible, overt or covert, with the support of the ignorant masses looking to gleefully trade liberty for food stamps.
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Re: Obama Can't Remember

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:37 pm

Dann, you keep saying the same thing but never provide any proof & no a far right extremist slant isn't proof. Try an actual bill or some type of legislation, someone that has a fact instead of allegation. & please don't come back with your name calling childish BS.
Even being on SS I still pay income tax for your leaders information, all the disabled vets get tax free money but I would bet the farm that they would much rather be able to work for a living as would most that get his so called free ride.
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Re: Obama Can't Remember

PostBy: Dann757 On: Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:45 pm

Sam you're over reacting. Same ole same ole. What good is "proof" when you just ignore, deflect, obfuscate, deny, or reply with some other link?

I'll tell ya what good it does; keeps ya occupied.

http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/mclemente/title

http://patriotupdate.com/articles/obama ... z271699hCt
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Re: Obama Can't Remember

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:56 pm

Hey Dann, lots of words but not even one form of proof, crying about the same old crap but not providing any proof. The debt, sure it's going to go up, if you don't eat do you get hungry, don't pay your bills do you still have heat, light & water with a roof over your head, quit buying gas does your truck still run, quit making money do you have plenty to spend? The Gov. still has to function but has less coming in, if it quit spending entirely how long do you think it would take to pay things off providing it still had the same amt. coming in?
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Re: Obama Can't Remember

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:57 pm

samhill wrote:I told you a long time ago that most in the Houses work for Lobbyists. You say that Cons should work against him, I think that from day one after each gets into office they should be working for all, not by the party for the party as you seem to think. As I said the cuts were there for honorable men & women to honor, we should have across the board cuts with nothing left untouched, Bush tax cuts expired for one & all & the elimination of all tax loopholes including all income being considered income no matter where it comes from.


I didn't say they "should" do anything. I said I expect them to be partisan.

Just like I expect you to talk out both sides of your mouth.

You shouldn't, but you do. :)

What elected officials "should" do is obey their oath of office and if they don't, they "should" be prosecuted for perjury.
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Re: Obama Can't Remember

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:59 pm

samhill wrote:Hey Dann, lots of words but not even one form of proof, crying about the same old crap but not providing any proof. The debt, sure it's going to go up, if you don't eat do you get hungry, don't pay your bills do you still have heat, light & water with a roof over your head, quit buying gas does your truck still run, quit making money do you have plenty to spend? The Gov. still has to function but has less coming in, if it quit spending entirely how long do you think it would take to pay things off providing it still had the same amt. coming in?


If you are in debt over your head, "should" you only go out to dinner 6 times a week and put it on the charge card instead of 7 or do you eliminated going out to eat altogether and work on paying down your bills?

Hmmm.....let me think.....
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Re: Obama Can't Remember

PostBy: Dann757 On: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:24 pm

Jeebus I should have worked today now I'm all caught up in samlogic.

You demand proof, I relent and provide a link, you ignore it and then get all huffy :D

I could say it's daylight half the time at the equinox and you would jump up and down and say I'm discounting the nighttime. :D


Jpete, I just caught a little of Ron Paul talking to Neil Cavuto. I guess the MSM has really swept him under the rug. I like a lot of what he says.

Neil said "We can't just cut off the funding to muslim countries."

Ron Paul said, "Why not? Bernanke just prints up more money to give away and they hate us anyway!"

The soviets got stung in Afghanistan and they pulled out. The Chinese don't get involved in these conflicts! They are more capitalist than we are, they invest in these countries while all we do is try to buy our friends, which isn't working.
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Re: Obama Can't Remember

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:09 pm

Dann, your right, I asked for some proof & you gave me some editorial written as fact instead of opinion from two different right wing rags with no source of facts when that's exactly what I asked you to provide was some type of bill or legislation backing up your view.
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Re: Obama Can't Remember

PostBy: Dann757 On: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:16 pm

"Under the Democrat controlled Congress:
•The national debt has increased by 41.8%: When the Democrats gained control of Congress in January of 2007, the national debt was$8.67 trillion. It currently stands at a staggering $12.3 trillion. That is an increase of $3.63 trillion.
•The deficit has nearly tripled: From FY 1996-2007, a Republican controlled Congress ran a cumulative deficit of $1.2 trillion. From FY 2008-2010, a Democrat controlled Congress will run a $3.2 trillion deficit.
•The deficit was higher in FY 2009 than in every year from FY 1996-FY 2007 combined: The deficit in FY 2009 was $1.42 trillion. The cumulative deficit from FY 1996-FY 2007 was $1.25 trillion. The FY 2010 deficit is projected to be $1.349 trillion.
•The debt limit has been increased five times: Congress is currently considering proposals to increase the debt limit for a sixth time from $8.965 trillion to $14.29 trillion. If enacted the debt limit will have increased by 59.4% since the Democrats gained power.
•Annual deficits have turned into monthly deficits: On average, in FY 2009 and FY 2010, Congress will run monthly deficits that exceed the annual deficits of the past 12 years.

When the Democrats gained control of Congress, the CBO projected that the federal government would run a budget surplus of $800 billion between FY 2008-2017. Now, over that same period, the federal government is projected to run a deficit of $7.4 trillion.

This is an $8.2 trillion deterioration of the budget outlook from just three years earlier."

Disprove this, you cantankerous kettle of condescension. :D
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