jpete wrote:The last war that threatened to take away our rights was around 1812. All the others since were for political or economic reasons.
The Founding Fathers were called "patriots" as they were fighting their government so don't say a patriot can never merely criticize his government. That's nationalism and it was tried in Germany in the late 30's and didn't work out so well for anyone involved.
Jpete, I wonder if you write your own history. The way I see it, you contradicted yourself again in one short quote.
WWI - rescue Europe from fascism.
WWII - what are you serious? You got me boiling mad when you said Pearl Harbor was OUR fault many months ago. WWII for political reasons? Hitler had blitzkreig'ed most of Europe and was trying for England! WTF! The Brits had developed RADAR and had 600 miles of coast defended by the time The Luftwaffe started bombing CIVILIAN targets! The Royal Air Force could process the incoming enemy and scramble to meet them in 15 minutes. This was for the very survival of England and freedom against the Third Reich.
Korean War - stop the march of world communist domination.
Viet Nam - same thing- domino effect, troops hobbled by bad planning.
Cold War - ideological conflict to PRESERVE FREEDOM
Even Freetown Fred is getting sucked into this current insanity. I always appreciate his service and patriotism, the guy walked the walk. Another venerated member of this great COAL FORUM.
Sorry you don't have any national pride, freedom isn't free, it's been paid for by Americans who sacrificed everything for the sake of the country.
Sorry to go off topic.