If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

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Re: If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:24 pm

jpete wrote:
freetown fred wrote:Ya know, if I research enough & read & listen enough, eventually I'm going to find things from people that believe exactly as I do. How touching to take to heart a death bed confession. Good way to get into Heaven I suspect. :clap: toothy


Hardly a "death bed confession".
Sorry, "nearing his death bed" kinda confession :roll2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AaGVAipGp0
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Re: If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:27 pm

Thanks for the correction. Now was he a liar back then or was he lying when he said they "made a mistake"?

That's the question.
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Re: If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:17 pm

something for YOU to ponder.
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Re: If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:30 pm

McNamara's grandfather, Heinrich McNamara, was the u-boat captain that sunk the Lusitania. :D
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Re: If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:01 pm

freetown fred wrote:something for YOU to ponder.


I did.

Ignorance is bliss and Americans are the happiest people I know. :)

I don't know why I bother to read. I should just ask you because you seem to know it all.
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Re: If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:25 pm

Well, now that you finally accept that, I await any questions that have you bamboozled. PS--I've oft wondered not why you read, but what you read.
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Re: If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:37 pm

I'm beginning to wonder IF you read. You don't seem to have any doubt in the correctness of your opinion.

Seems like a dangerous mindset to me. Excluding any possibility you might be wrong.
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Re: If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:40 pm

jpete, that doesn't even deserve a response as so many of said posts don't. Just keep in mind "no matter where you go, there you are"
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Re: If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:52 pm

OK. if we have to be taxed on our income, perhaps to make it a bit more fair (and to give the people some real say in things) we should be able to voluntarily determine where our tax money will go. There could be a percentage box system on the 1040 form whereby each person could tell the government that a certain percentage of the take being extorted from them should go to this department, that department, this program, that program, etc... until you reach 100%.

That way, one could effectively opt out of supporting abortion, the TSA, Homeland Security, The Dept of Education, the military, Obamacare, etc.... (at their own discretion)

I might find it hard (and painful) to allocate the entire 100% of my tax portions, but this idea would at least give some level of government power back to the people. And for those who find this choices thing far too difficult or confusing, the government can decide where to send their tax dollars.

I'm sure that every government department and government funded program has its true fans, and that thereby no department or program would be left behind. Especially with all of those opting out of choosing to use their brains and letting the government do it for them instead.

And if you are getting a refund the individual departments and programs would owe you money back at your percentage of discretion as well. For example, if you have a refund coming, and you truly despise abortion, you can tell the feds to give 100% of your refund to you from their government funded abortion programs.

Your thoughts?
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Re: If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:24 pm

freetown fred wrote:jpete, that doesn't even deserve a response as so many of said posts don't. Just keep in mind "no matter where you go, there you are"


Well that was both thoughtful and intelligent.....
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Re: If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:37 pm

Thank you. I thought so too.
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Re: If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:49 pm

lsayre wrote:Especially with all of those opting out of choosing to use their brains and letting the government do it for them instead.


Larry, people are stupid. They don't have brains to begin with. :shock:
Obama already has that system in place, the democrat welfare crowd ;)
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jpete wrote:freetown fred wrote:
jpete, that doesn't even deserve a response as so many of said posts don't. Just keep in mind "no matter where you go, there you are"

Well that was both thoughtful and intelligent.....


OK you guys, you're infringing on me and Samhill's trademark animosity :D
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The world situation, the election so close, the media getting all nasty more and more, the days getting shorter, the economy; I think we're all getting a little uptight.
Most people are willing to pay taxes, it's just that it seems so impossible to see them allocated sensibly anymore. The gubmint takes them and expands itself. Personally, I can't stand to be in debt, I said before, I got real discouraged about my business back around '92. I wasn't painting houses with my partner anymore, season over, and frankly we were sick of each other. I got depressed and started using the credit card instead of working. I got 6 large in debt, and somehow pulled myself out of it. That included working for a painter at a low wage. The guy could be a bastard. Somehow I pulled out of it. I hope that's what the country can do, but it aint gonna be under Celebrident Obama. He made it clear on Letterman he has no concern for the debt in the short term. There has to be some austerity someplace. 16+ trillion debt and only getting worse.
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Re: If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:01 pm

Not to worry Dann, it's the people that doubt this Country and her peoples resilience that concern me the most.
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Re: If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

PostBy: Dann757 On: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:01 am

freetown fred wrote:Not to worry Dann, it's the people that doubt this Country and her peoples resilience that concern me the most.


Preachin' to the choir, man. Also the poor dupes that are easily brainwashed by the deliberate creeping socialism and foreign ideologies. Like the people that teach that peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are racist, while being paid with tax dollars. That's another topic.
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Re: If taxation is theft, is it moral to work for the government

PostBy: cokehead On: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:47 pm





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