Cubic foot of buck

Cubic foot of buck

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:22 pm

Is the weight of a cubic foot of buckwheat the same as the weight of a cubic foot of rice? Has anybody ever weighed Harmony buckwheat? Or rice? I always assume that coal was 50 lbs per cubic foot. But that would be rice. Buck weighs more?
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520x3, 700 Van Wert 800
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: EFM 150, Keystoker 150
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck

Re: Cubic foot of buck

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:28 pm

Rice is going to take up more room so the Buck would weigh more per volume assuming the exact same product. As the coal sizes get smaller they take up more space and different sources have different densities so that can be a factor too.

Generally speaking 40 cubic ft. per ton.

There is 5 ton of buck on this truck. If it were rice it would be stacked up a lot more. If it were nut coal it would even with the sides. If it were stove you wouldn't be able to see it.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
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Re: Cubic foot of buck

PostBy: Lightning On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:37 am

Richard I'm having confusion. I bought 2380 pounds of nut coal that filled 5 - 55 gallon drums.

7.352 cubic ft per barrel x 5 barrels = 36.76 cubic feet total
How did I get 2380 pounds when a ton is 40 cubic feet?
Shouldn't 2380 pounds take up 47 cubic feet?? Did I do something wrong?
Am I getting ripped off??
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Stove Size Mix


Re: Cubic foot of buck

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:47 am

Not all coal has the same density.
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Re: Cubic foot of buck

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:12 am

In my admittedly limited experience Stockton pea is about 12-13% more dense than Harmony pea. As Rob said, there is a lot of density variability.

For me a well filled 5 gallon pail of Stockton pea weighs about 42 lbs (including the plastic pail), and a well filled 5 gallon pail of Harmony pea weights about 37.5 lbs. (including the plastic pail).

There are about 57.5 gallons of capacity in a typical 55 gallon drum that is filled level to the brim. And just as for drums, you can get more than 5 gallons of content into a 5 gallon pail.
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Re: Cubic foot of buck

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:30 am

Lightning wrote:7.352 cubic ft per barrel x 5 barrels = 36.76 cubic feet total
How did I get 2380 pounds when a ton is 40 cubic feet?


The 40 cubic feet is just a suggestion and probably on the high side for most coal.

That would not concern me, the nut is smaller volume.

Generally speaking when I filled 55 gallon drums it would take 5 for the rice but they would be topped off.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: Cubic foot of buck

PostBy: Lightning On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:14 am

Thanks Richard :)
I did see another figure that said 36 cubic feet for a ton of nut, so that would be closer :D
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Stove Size Mix

Re: Cubic foot of buck

PostBy: cabinover On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:32 pm

Scott, a ton of that coal will take up 48.86 cu. ft. of space. :lol:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Hybrid Axeman Anderson 130
Baseburners & Antiques: Sparkle #12
Coal Size/Type: Pea, Buckwheat, Nut
Other Heating: LP Hot air. WA TX for coal use.

Re: Cubic foot of buck

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:42 pm

Hahahaha Right :lol:
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: EFM 150, Keystoker 150
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck

Re: Cubic foot of buck

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:50 pm

Looks good Scott!

It will look even better going up through the burn pot. :punk: :up:

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Re: Cubic foot of buck

PostBy: cabinover On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:50 pm

Look at you go!
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Hybrid Axeman Anderson 130
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Coal Size/Type: Pea, Buckwheat, Nut
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Re: Cubic foot of buck

PostBy: cabinover On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:51 pm

How's your tractor handling that weight?
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Hybrid Axeman Anderson 130
Baseburners & Antiques: Sparkle #12
Coal Size/Type: Pea, Buckwheat, Nut
Other Heating: LP Hot air. WA TX for coal use.

Re: Cubic foot of buck

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:58 pm

Just got to rain on my parade. Don't know yet. We will leave that for another day. Those bags have 2200 in each. :)
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520x3, 700 Van Wert 800
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: EFM 150, Keystoker 150
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck

Re: Cubic foot of buck

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:00 pm

Rob R. wrote:Looks good Scott!

It will look even better going up through the burn pot. :punk: :up:

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Might look better burning but right now I'm sporting wood looking at it :lol: :lol: :punk:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520x3, 700 Van Wert 800
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: EFM 150, Keystoker 150
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck

Re: Cubic foot of buck

PostBy: cabinover On: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:03 pm

I only ask since I know how my 580 does with a full bag. I get armstrong steering after picking it up. :shock:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Hybrid Axeman Anderson 130
Baseburners & Antiques: Sparkle #12
Coal Size/Type: Pea, Buckwheat, Nut
Other Heating: LP Hot air. WA TX for coal use.