Direct vent for alaskan

Direct vent for alaskan

PostBy: keithkeystokerefm On: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:38 am

Hello! I have a keystoker direct vent. I just purchased an older alaskan stoker II. Can I use that direct vent on that model or do I need to get a SWG power vent system. A guy at alaskan said I need to buy an Alaskan power vent. Do I? Or will I be able to hook that direct vent up?
keithkeystokerefm
 
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM 520
Stove/Furnace Model: keystoker

Re: Direct vent for alaskan

PostBy: bustedwing On: Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:18 pm

Unless somebody on the forum has experience with using a power vent other than that recommended by the manufacturer,I'd go with the manufacturers recommendation.2 years ago I bought a motor to replace the one in my SWG and at the lowest setting I wasn't able to get the draft low enough,my heat was going out the pipe.Took the old frozen swg motor cleaned it up and oiled it good and it's been working fine since then.The new used for a week motor is back in the box and has been for 2 years,guess I'll use it for a boat anchor.
bustedwing
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: LL Pioneer
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Hot air oil
Stove/Furnace Make: LeisureLine
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer

Re: Direct vent for alaskan

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:27 pm

keithkeystokerefm wrote:Hello! I have a keystoker direct vent. I just purchased an older alaskan stoker II. Can I use that direct vent on that model or do I need to get a SWG power vent system. A guy at alaskan said I need to buy an Alaskan power vent. Do I? Or will I be able to hook that direct vent up?



A couple of questions back at ya..............

First off where are you placing this "new" Alaska Stoker II ?? Can you just use a regular chimney ??

Of course an Alaska dealer will tell you to use an Alaskan Power vent. However your unit is no longer under any warranty, so I would use whatever vent you can. With the exception of a direct vent. A direct vent pressurizes the stove to push the exhaust gasses back out through the vent pipe. A power vent sucks the gasses out. Power vent is the way to go if you must............

I just have regular pipe coming out the back of my Stoker II. This joins the triple wall going through the wall and elbow before extending right above the roof line.


A few more details on your planned install and we can get you dialed in.




Rick
Rick 386
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work


Re: Direct vent for alaskan

PostBy: keithkeystokerefm On: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:41 pm

I really don't access to a chimney. Its going in my garage which is a block wall. I would have to come out of the stove with a 6" elbow, then the direct vent which necks down to a 4" pipe, and then through the wall to the stainless vent. If it will work I will use it, but I don't want any type of fumes backing up. Should I sell it and get the SWG? I really don't know the best option.
keithkeystokerefm
 
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM 520
Stove/Furnace Model: keystoker

Re: Direct vent for alaskan

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:25 pm

That is where I have mine.......in the garage.

My setup is a framed wall that I go through. Hence the triple wall pipe through the wall.

If you have a block wall, you should not need the triple wall to pass through. Unless you have it lined on the inside with something else. Or some type of covering on the exterior.

I come out of the stove with an elbow then up straight for about 8' then through the wall. The pipe comes out through the wall into a "T" which is capped off on the bottom leg. The upper part extends up about 24"-36" and then has a cap on it.

The only way to be sure is to hook up a manometer to it to check the draft.

HOWEVER AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT THEREFORE THE CAPS....YOU MENTIONED INSTALLING THIS IN A GARAGE. BE VERY CAREFUL OF GAS FUMES !!!!

There may be some restrictions from your insurance company. So it is best to make sure you are covered. In fact you may wish to first mount the stove on a couple of cement blocks to raise its level. Gas fumes are heavier that air and will lay low to the floor.

I have removed all gas cans and any thing similar from the garage prior to starting the stove each season. I once had a scare when the generator fuel tank sprung a leak while in the garage. I quickly removed the generator and opened the doors to allow the fumes to escape. I hate loud noises !!!!!! :blowup:


Post any other questions you have. If I get a chance, I'll take a pic and show you my setup.




Rick
Rick 386
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: Direct vent for alaskan

PostBy: Ed.A On: Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:58 am

Rick,
Can you post a pic of your Pwr Vent set-up? ( perferably inside and out). Will be installing my Stoker II shortly with the same venting as yours.
Ed.A
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Channing III/ '94 Stoker II
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Re: Direct vent for alaskan

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:12 pm

Ed

I don't use a power vent at the home garage. It is just regular pipe up and out through the wall and I get enough draft.

However I installed a SWG power vent on my kid's Keystoker when he hooked it up in his home.

Here's the thread on that install: SWG Power Vent on a Keystoker


Hope those pics worked for you.



Rick
Rick 386
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: Direct vent for alaskan

PostBy: Ed.A On: Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:48 pm

Thanks, good pics. I have to get a reostat, I think thats about all that didn't come with the stove.
Ed.A
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Channing III/ '94 Stoker II
Coal Size/Type: Rice