Obama care,Death panels

Re: Obama care,Death panels

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:28 pm

Glad you have HC Sam. I've been forced to buy a product from a third party while millions of illegals get free healthcare and anchor baby tax credits, but I guess you think that's constitutional.
See if your HC covers cognitive therapy, but you have to be willing to recognize you have deeply ingrained psychological behaviors that are detrimental to your well-being. I could use some therapy myself, to find out why I have a need to keep responding to subjective liberalism.

A lot of retirees get a Winnebago and travel the country sightseeing; but it's fine if you prefer to sit indoors all day long every day posting left wing opinions on a predominantly conservative forum.

I have a business to run, always a risk involved but that's The American Way and most of us cherish it, not oppose it.
Very close call on sealing a rich man's driveway today. If I go ahead and succeed, it will be convenient for them since they can afford to travel and are away for the weekend. If I fail, the asphalt-emulsion sealer could wash out in the rain and stain the pavers skirt at the front of the driveway. I don't get any work at all from poor people, go figure. So I'm glad you think the third world invaders and welfare scum have an absolute right to healthcare under communist rule; glad you're so concerned with them and not the consequences of Obamatax.

The makers or the takers, still your choice.
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Re: Obama care,Death panels

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:48 pm

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Re: Obama care,Death panels

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:14 pm

James R. Edwards Jr., PhD, Fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies, stated the following in his July 2010 article "The Medicaid Costs of Legalizing Illegal Aliens," available at http://www.cis.org:



"The recently enacted health reform law, in part, expands eligibility for the Medicaid program. Illegal aliens remain ineligible for Medicaid beyond emergency services. However, this could change if they are legalized...

3.4 million uninsured illegal immigrants have incomes low enough (under 133 percent of poverty) to qualify for Medicaid under the expanded eligibility established by health reform…
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http://www.cato.org/publications/commen ... -is-upheld

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I thought Obamacare was supposed to be great and helpful to Americans and businesses. Why would Obama’s biggest supporters in Unions and in the insurance industry need waivers from such a great plan? The organizations receiving waivers sure makes me scratch my head:
•United Federation of Teachers Fund – 351,000 enrollees
•NY District Council 37 Health & Security Plan – 303,164 enrollees
•CIGNA -265,000 enrollees
•Aetna – 209,423 enrollees
•Teamsters Local 237 Welfare Fund – 51,649 enrollees
•Chicago Local 25 SEIU – 31,000 enrollees

Peruse the complete lists at your leisure. Why is a law that is supposed to be awesome for you and me, not being enforced on unions and the health insurance companies that helped write the 2,700 page monstrosity? I’m sure there’s a good explanation. Obama wouldn’t lie to us about Obamacare. It certainly doesn’t include any taxes and it will certainly be budget neutral.

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Obamacare Facts & Figures

Nearly one-quarter of all seniors rely on Medicare Advantage, the private health care option in Medicare. However, Obamacare makes such deep cuts to that program that half of those covered will no longer be able to keep the coverage they have.

New taxes on drug companies ($27 billion) and medical device makers ($20 billion), as well as new reporting requirements and regulations imposed on physicians, will make access to health care and services more costly and difficult for seniors under Obamacare.

http://www.heritage.org/research/projec ... -obamacare


Wanna have a link war Sam? HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Re: Obama care,Death panels

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:41 pm

If you want to know how it will work, Google how England's "NICE" board works.

If you have something completely treatable like macular degeneration, you have to wait until you go blind in one eye before they'll treat the other eye.
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Re: Obama care,Death panels

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:50 pm

http://www.bankrate.com/finance/insuran ... px#slide=1 This has all been done before & you didn't believe it then so I'm done wasting my time it is what it is believe what you want.
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Re: Obama care,Death panels

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:58 pm

Looks like a collection of half truth spin to me.
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Re: Obama care,Death panels

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:31 pm

samhill wrote:I'm done wasting my time


No you're not :D

http://obamacare411.wordpress.com/obamacarelies/

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http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/ ... ting_fraud

"Rep. Paul Ryan exposed and debunked Democrats' most audacious tricks during the healthcare summit -- which of course did absolutely nothing to convince Democrats of the error of their ways. During his illuminating dissection of the bill, Ryan mentioned a provision called the CLASS Act, a new federally funded long-term care program embedded within Obamacare. Ryan quoted Sen. Kent Conrad, a Democrat, as decrying the program as a Madoff-style "Ponzi scheme." Why? Because the premiums supposedly collected to pay for the CLASS Act over Obamacare's first decade would be injected into that phony, contrived "deficit reducing" CBO formula -- while the program itself would likely collapse under its own weight almost immediately. In other words, some critics suspected, Democrats were creating an entire program just to extract hypothetical dollars from its front-loaded revenue mechanism to "pay for" the larger bill -- with no real intention of implementing a sustainable long-term care program. To outside observers like Ryan, it looked like a giant shell game. As we now know, it looked that way to inside observers, too."
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Re: Obama care,Death panels

PostBy: smithy On: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:47 pm

who's damn business is it of anybody's how much money somebody makes if you don't like how much somebody charges don't do business with them 00 that's right you got your nose stuck up somebody else's business cuz you aint got no business of your own to tend to supposed to be telling me what kind of hay to feed my horses next or what I should slop my hog's with
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