Anyone know how to take apart an efel coal stove?

Anyone know how to take apart an efel coal stove?

PostBy: Freespirit On: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:52 pm

This was very useful I also bought an old coal stove it is an Efel Ambassador 420 and it needs to be recemented it keeps loosing old cement. I am just not sure how to dismantle the outside to get to the cast iron and it also has to clean out doors on the sides of the cast iron also another reason to take it apart does any one know how to take this stove apart? I love this coal stove it has an automatic feeding hopper no electricity needed so if the power goes out I know when I get home my house will be warm. I bought it last January and it heated my home which is 2194 sq feet.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Efel
Stove/Furnace Model: Ambassador 420

Re: Anyone know how to take apart an efel coal stove?

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:53 am

Freespirit,

I believe that your stove is the same as a Surdiac which wer quite popular in the 80s. If you can't find any Efel information try Surdiac. I've never seen on in person but assume it's sheet metal surrounding cast iron. I don't know how they are assembled though. Explain what you mean by "Losing cement"? If you mean pieces dropping off of joints that doesn't necessarily mean the joint is leaking there. I just restored my Glenwood 116 and the first time I burned it to cure the finish, I had several pieces fall off too but they were all just my over zealous application of furnace cement when I put it back together. The joints themselves are sealed well. In other words it was bits of "squeeze" that I didn't wipe away that fell off. But, if yours is leaking where the cement came off then yes you need to reseal it. Does the tin unscrew or it it riveted/spot welded?

This is a surdiac pix attached.
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Re: Anyone know how to take apart an efel coal stove?

PostBy: Freespirit On: Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:32 pm

Got the sides and the front off 4 screws did the trick. I think your right about the oozing out of excess but there are spots I do not see any where I think there should be only remnants of where it use to be. I got some Rutland furnace cement it is listed as up to 2700 so I am going to use that along the seams even where it still has some. I talked to the people I bought it off from and they never recemented it or cleaned out the side clean outs so it has been 28 years. I am going to replace the gaskets on the clean out holes on all 4 doors. The cement package say's to take off the rust first but it is not bad in the places I need to redo and if I did this it would be a forever job so I am hoping when I use the rag to wet it for the cement that if it is loose it will come off. Last winter when I used it if I closed the air all the way off it seemed like it was still getting lots of air when I got the out side sheet metal shell off I was right the door was not closing all the way it has a spring on it but no adjustment but the arm that went to it seemed a little bent so I gently bent it back and it now closes shut. If all goes well I will get this recemented and then I have to wait 1 hour and build a small fire to finish the curing hopefully by tomorrow it will be finished.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Efel
Stove/Furnace Model: Ambassador 420

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Re: Anyone know how to take apart an efel coal stove?

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:49 pm

Excellent. Sounds like you are on top of it. make sure you can get it as tight as possible below the grates for the best control. You're probably right if it's hard to run low, it needs some sealing.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Modern Oak 116 & Glenwood 208 C Range

Re: Anyone know how to take apart an efel coal stove?

PostBy: Freespirit On: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:29 pm

Is there any place to get replacement parts for my Efel Ambassador 420? The frates inside are getting old and warped.
Freespirit
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Efel
Stove/Furnace Model: Ambassador 420

Re: Anyone know how to take apart an efel coal stove?

PostBy: SteveZee On: Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:19 pm

Freespirit wrote:Is there any place to get replacement parts for my Efel Ambassador 420? The frates inside are getting old and warped.


Try woodsmanpartsplus.com They might have them.
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