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baddawg · By: **baddawg** On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:07 pm

"When asked a question I try & give an answer, it may not be what someone wants to hear but none the less it's an answer. "

Yeah SAM, it's a answer. No matter how God damn stupid it might be. Just like Obummer. Tell me how many things he has kept his promise on the last 3 and half years? Tell me how transparent his admin. has been liked he promised. Tell me SAM does the text and voices just change as you libs read and hear things? PLEASE tell me SAM because I just don't understand how you people can stand by and watch this great country go down the damn drain and feel ok with yourself :blowup:

Stand up for your country and don't let it be turned into some socialist dump that it is headed for. If you don't like your freedom you are always free to leave. Nice thing about the US, huh?

lsayre · By: **lsayre** On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:11 pm

We should agree that samhill is free to present his opinions and you are free to present yours.

jpete · By: **jpete** On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:13 pm

baddawg wrote: If you don't like your freedom you are always free to leave. Nice thing about the US, huh?

I wonder what the U.S. would look like if Sam Adams, George Washington, et al had that philosophy?

I hate to stick up for Sam, but I'm really tired of hearing this particular argument.

samhill · By: **samhill** On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:26 pm

Well that added a great amount of intelligence to this discussion baddawg, why not try & think about what you want to say rather than just flying off into a rant? We are all just voicing opinions & if I may inject are all free to do so thanks to the forum. At times many get a bit exuberant, some by nature & others because they don't really have anything to add IMO, the choice is yours as to which way you want to go.

freetown fred · By: **freetown fred** On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:52 pm

Oh geeze, I know I'm sorry that you're tired of hearing this particular arguement. :clap:

I personally think bd's got a good point there.

jpete wrote:
baddawg wrote: If you don't like your freedom you are always free to leave. Nice thing about the US, huh?

I wonder what the U.S. would look like if Sam Adams, George Washington, et al had that philosophy?

I hate to stick up for Sam, but I'm really tired of hearing this particular argument.

jpete · By: **jpete** On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:54 pm

Dann757 wrote:
samhill wrote:I try to not borrow but for big ticket items someone with my income has little choice but I know sure well that reducing my income even more isn't going to help pay things off.

I'm sorry you think you have little choice. That is the mentality of impoverishment. You could go to Ebay, buy a wholesale lot of widgets, and resell them if you really wanted to increase your income. It takes more effort than bellyaching though.

Who knows? It may soon be illegal to do what you suggest.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/your-r ... 2012-10-04

Tucked into the U.S. Supreme Court’s agenda this fall is a little-known case that could upend your ability to resell everything from your grandmother’s antique furniture to your iPhone 4.

jpete · By: **jpete** On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:55 pm

freetown fred wrote:Oh geeze, I know I'm sorry that you're tired of hearing this particular arguement. I personally think bd's got a good point there.
jpete wrote:
baddawg wrote: If you don't like your freedom you are always free to leave. Nice thing about the US, huh?

I wonder what the U.S. would look like if Sam Adams, George Washington, et al had that philosophy?

I hate to stick up for Sam, but I'm really tired of hearing this particular argument.

You'd probably feel differently if you understood it.

Ed.A · By: **Ed.A** On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:16 pm

From the Link
A native of Thailand, Kirtsaeng came to America in 1997 to study at Cornell University. When he discovered that his textbooks, produced by Wiley, were substantially cheaper to buy in Thailand than they were in Ithaca, N.Y., he rallied his Thai relatives to buy the books and ship them to him in the United States.

He then sold them on eBay, making upward of $1.2 million, according to court documents.

Wiley, which admitted that it charged less for books sold abroad than it did in the United States, sued him for copyright infringement. Kirtsaeng countered with the first-sale doctrine.
The electronic future and Tort ....oh goodie.

samhill · By: **samhill** On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:46 pm

The way I understood the law (not e-bay) was that if you sold an item that you had paid the taxes on then you could sell it outright, if you were selling with a deferred tax like a dealer with an EIN# (or whatever it's called) then you have to charge tax on those items. That's the way it worked in my business we only collected tax when we did business liquidations where items were bought tax exempt with the intent to resell & tax. That could vary state to state I would think. A store or business owner doesn't get permission from every patent holder that made something that was intended for resell, if the reseller was making a copy I could see it.

jpete · By: **jpete** On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:53 pm

That's the way it is now, the point of the lawsuit is to change it.

samhill · By: **samhill** On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:57 pm

BD, I choose not to leave, I would much rather stay in the country I love & exercise my rights to freedom to express my views & even if I don't agree with the views of others I respect their right to do the same. You obviously believe that the lib's are running the country down & I believe it's the con's that ran it down, in reality we could both be right but you don't know until it happens & I put my faith in the American people.

samhill · By: **samhill** On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:03 pm

Yep Jpete, I understand what your saying but unless every patent owner wanted to wait for every retail outlet to get permission to sell I don't think they would be shipping much, a patent is to protect your rights of invention the fact that you made an item with the intent to deliver for sale would be rather redundant. In this case he wants the U.S. Laws to protect his right to rip off Americans. It will probably pass. :roll:

jpete · By: **jpete** On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:13 pm

samhill wrote:Yep Jpete, I understand what your saying but unless every patent owner wanted to wait for every retail outlet to get permission to sell I don't think they would be shipping much, a patent is to protect your rights of invention the fact that you made an item with the intent to deliver for sale would be rather redundant. In this case he wants the U.S. Laws to protect his right to rip off Americans. It will probably pass.

How is the Vietnamese kid ripping anyone off? The publisher was selling the books cheaper in Vietnam, he bought them there and sold them here.

Buy low, sell high. Sounds like the American way to me!

The books weren't pirated or otherwise stolen. Seem legit to me.

Dann757 · By: **Dann757** On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:15 pm

Your commie got stomped,
he really got whomped.
He aint worth a dime,
without his teleprompt.

I never said that,
the cry of Sam.
He never can see
the Bamster scam. :lol:

samhill · By: **samhill** On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:33 pm

Ya lost me there Jpete, I was impling that Wiley was ripping the Americans off (guessing that Wiley is a U.S. Co.) & he's selling cheaper in Thailand than here after the cost of shipping both by Wiley there & the relatives back. But I would wonder why books written in English would be a big selling item in Thailand?

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