shaker grate or rake?

shaker grate or rake?

PostBy: Iforgotmypassword On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:41 pm

I am going to start burning bit coal in my Empyre outdoor stove. Do I need a shaker grate or can I get by with just raking the coals?If I really need a shaker grate has anyone built there own ?Irealize I will need to do some fabrication but buying another stove isn't an option.
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Stove/Furnace Model: empyre outdoor hot water stove

Re: shaker grate or rake?

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:24 pm

Wecome to the forum.
Hi, do you have some photos showing that ""stove"" :?:
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Re: shaker grate or rake?

PostBy: Iforgotmypassword On: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:23 pm

Thanks. The stove is an Empyre 250 stainless steel . You can see it at empyrestove.com It's a great product and could have been ordered with a welded in port to install a coal stoker easily, of course I was never going to burn coal.
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Re: shaker grate or rake?

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:53 am

I dont think you will be happy without a grate, you really need to have the air come up from the bottom of the fire with coal.
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Re: shaker grate or rake?

PostBy: SteveZee On: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:10 am

carlherrnstein wrote:I dont think you will be happy without a grate, you really need to have the air come up from the bottom of the fire with coal.



Absoulutely right. I was assuming that you had A grate, just not a shaker grate? You will NOT be able to burn ant coal in the unit with out a grate of some kind and a shaker grate is really essential. Raking is never going to cut it. Coal is not like wood and doesn't like to be disturbed as such. As mentioned without air from below and no way for the air to go anywhere but through the coal bed, again from below, you won't be able to burn anthracite coal. Bit coal is a different store and is "similar" but not the same as wood, but you still need a shaker grate.

Empire does make a coal version of their stove called the Cozyburn. You might ask them if your model can be converted.
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Re: shaker grate or rake?

PostBy: Chuck_Steak On: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:36 pm

The only time you will want to rake your coal,
is when you want to kill your fire!
Next to spraying it with a garden hose,
not much will kill that baby quicker,
than messing with it.... :oops:

Dan

(former wood burner... turned coal killer when first starting out)
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Re: shaker grate or rake?

PostBy: Iforgotmypassword On: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:27 pm

Probably won't even bother. Just found out our socialist NDP Provincial government is banning coal for heating purposes effective Jan. 2014. Lots of union money goes into the NDP party boys.
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Re: shaker grate or rake?

PostBy: ONEDOLLAR On: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:31 pm

Iforgotmypassword wrote:Probably won't even bother. Just found out our socialist NDP Provincial government is banning coal for heating purposes effective Jan. 2014. Lots of union money goes into the NDP party boys.


What part of Canada are you in? (I assume Canada)

Gotta love the "Pinko's" and their twisted logic no matter what country they are from.... NOT..
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Re: shaker grate or rake?

PostBy: Iforgotmypassword On: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:31 pm

I'm from Manitoba.Coal is mined in Saskatchewan about 2 hours from here so I don't see how they can stop people bringing it in, but it probably isn't worth it for the amount I would burn. Damn government.
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Re: shaker grate or rake?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:42 am

Well :wtf: --so much for my visits to Birch River anymore ;)
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Re: shaker grate or rake?

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:48 pm

Iforgotmypassword wrote:I'm from Manitoba.Coal is mined in Saskatchewan about 2 hours from here so I don't see how they can stop people bringing it in, but it probably isn't worth it for the amount I would burn. Damn government.


Hi Canadian friend. I know we got a &%*$ separatist PM in Québec now but I'm not shure she will stay there for a long time...
About the coal ban for heating the Canadian homes, do you know if it's Jack's heritage or a new Thomas's idea? Was thinking seriously to NPD for the next elections but after what you said, Conservators, Liberals... but no NPD.
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Re: shaker grate or rake?

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:50 pm

freetown fred wrote:Well :wtf: --so much for my visits to Birch River anymore ;)


No problem for you Fred, just come to Québec :idea: we have Le Parti Québecois to welcome you here :oops:
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