Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: jpete On: Sun May 12, 2013 9:53 pm

Slightly off topic but I just saw an ad for the H2 (History 2) channel. This Friday at 10pm, the show "America's Book of Secrets" is going to cover Benghazi.
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: samhill On: Mon May 13, 2013 8:06 am

Don't think it's off topic Jpete, I doubt it will shed much light on Benghazi but may give some insight on what they weren't doing there. Is that a series or just an hour special, you do know that it will only tell what is no longer secret but there will be a lot of surprises for many.
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon May 13, 2013 10:24 am

Don't know if you knew this or not Sam, but it's tough to call this whole ordeal "political" when the man testifying is ... or at least, WAS ... an obama supporter.

http://patriotupdate.com/2013/05/bengha ... ama-twice/


I guess this is their endgame .... http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/05/bengh ... le-utopia/


Gotta hand it to obama though - pretty crafty hiring the brother of CBS for your propaganda machine ... http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/05/bengh ... -brothers/
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: samhill On: Mon May 13, 2013 12:52 pm

Smitty, for some reason do you think that only the lib side plays politics & the con side does what? Look out for the good of the country? :?
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Mon May 13, 2013 3:20 pm

Nothing about this should be politically sided. 4 men, good men died with no rescue attempt from the people responsible for their safety. Period! Jobs should fall. People should be fired. If it is found that Obama was worried about his re-election so he wanted something covered up he should be outed. This has nothing to do with if I think he is a piece of scum or not. It is about 4 lives 4 children or brothers or spouses. Real people. :mad:
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: samhill On: Mon May 13, 2013 3:40 pm

Flyer, read about the time line on everything even how one of the men criticizing now I believe is the guy the ambassador tried calling, it took 3 tries because the guy didn't recognize the # & wouldn't answer. At lot went wrong that night & a lot more was going on, they had no good info it's not the convenience store down the street & they don't have jets & teams of seals patrolling the neighborhoods. Many times when on gunship stand-by over Nam where the distances were a lot shorter & we didn't have to worry about air traffic or anything else we couldn't get to an area to do anything but see what had happened. You remember that Chinook chopper with a full team of seals & others that got blown away trying to support some pinned down rangers a few years back, I would bet that the officers in charge did, you have to know what your going to get into otherwise you have even more dead. Now I'm done with this, it's still being investigated & by people that have more clearances maybe not as high as the top secret coal forum cons clearance but nearly that high.
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Mon May 13, 2013 4:06 pm

samhill wrote:Flyer, read about the time line on everything even how one of the men criticizing now I believe is the guy the ambassador tried calling, it took 3 tries because the guy didn't recognize the # & wouldn't answer. At lot went wrong that night & a lot more was going on, they had no good info it's not the convenience store down the street & they don't have jets & teams of seals patrolling the neighborhoods. Many times when on gunship stand-by over Nam where the distances were a lot shorter & we didn't have to worry about air traffic or anything else we couldn't get to an area to do anything but see what had happened. You remember that Chinook chopper with a full team of seals & others that got blown away trying to support some pinned down rangers a few years back, I would bet that the officers in charge did, you have to know what your going to get into otherwise you have even more dead. Now I'm done with this, it's still being investigated & by people that have more clearances maybe not as high as the top secret coal forum cons clearance but nearly that high.



Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. Fact is still 4 men died and help was never on the way. Excuses are just like *censored* everyone has one. And it sounds like at least one *censored* is trying to hide the real truth. 12 revisions? Come on !
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: samhill On: Mon May 13, 2013 4:37 pm

Not that it makes any difference but we were warned about 9/11/01, how many things were fabricated & outward lies were told as well as a CIA operative exposed to justify invading Iraq? Notice I said invade not liberate, we invaded, destroyed, occupied & stole their(our) money & treasures ripped off the American taxpayer & ruined our economy & are still doing it to a large degree IMO. And I didn't for one minute forget how many American lives were lost & ruined, but there again some (not the taxpayer or troops) made billions off of that war & still are & yet I hear no cry about that. Not meaning to bring anyone else into this just stating facts about our Gov. both sides. :oops: :cry:
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: franco b On: Mon May 13, 2013 5:34 pm

So if one side blunders we should ignore it because the other side has had blunders too.

Sounds fair to me.
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Mon May 13, 2013 5:43 pm

Hey, when you have mindlessly suported a bunch of criminal losers you have to justify your stupidity.
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: jpete On: Mon May 13, 2013 5:46 pm

samhill wrote:Don't think it's off topic Jpete, I doubt it will shed much light on Benghazi but may give some insight on what they weren't doing there. Is that a series or just an hour special, you do know that it will only tell what is no longer secret but there will be a lot of surprises for many.


As far as I know, it's just the one episode. But I guess I don't have to watch it since you've already told me there won't be any new information.

While you have your crystal ball out, how about the lottery numbers for tonight?
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: Rwalker On: Mon May 13, 2013 6:18 pm

Kind of a stupid question to keep asking after I have said that we should have never had anyone there in the first place, I certainly wouldn't have any of my family in an unstable foreign country but there it is. As for Clinton's answer, after being asked & answering the same thing turned around & inside out it kind of gets redundant. After the fact is just that as sad as it is once someone is dead they stay that way, asking the same thing over & over will never change that fact, instead just maybe they should be asking how if at all possible they can all work together to try & prevent it from ever happening again. It's just like Congress voting to end the H.C. Bill one would think that after a couple of times with no gains in the votes they would catch on & quit wasting time & money, maybe use that money towards funding for better embassy protection. Sorry I mistakenly thought that you may be a lowly prison guard I had no idea you were in management, I thought from the way you talked in the pass that you were right there in the trenches, you still get paid for your services.


Sorry Sam, missed your post. Of course, I have many things to do through out the day besides peruse forums. Yesterday was spent on a very special lady in my life, so this was low on the things to do list.

At any rate, I find it interesting that you are the king boss of your family and have complete control over what every one does for a living, where they are at all times, and where they are allowed to be. I don't have that power over my entire family, so I could completely put myself in their shoes. If that were my family, I would want justice, not excuses. If one of my sons or my daughter were an US ambassador, I would be pretty proud. But that is just me. I would also be proud if they were jumping out of helicopters in the middle of hell to save fellow Americans or whoop some enemy ass. But again, that is just me.

Wow, again you put a group of dedicated individuals down. First it was US troops fighting an unnecessary war (we must lump everyone who enlisted after 9/11, and there were PLENTY) and now a group of men entrusted in the care, custody, and control of convicted felons. Batting 1000 aren't we Sam? Lowly prison guard. I would love to introduce you to some of my friends Sam, I think you would all get along splendidly.

When you assume Sam, you...well you know. Every single housing unit, or cell block, inside a prison has multiple personnel working in close quarters with inmates. Hands on so to speak. They don't all wear a uniform. As a matter of fact, there are employees in charge of each housing unit and they aren't Corrections Officers. They wear a suit and tie to work every day, and they are on the block, around inmates, all day every day.

And yes, I do get paid for my services. Just like US soldiers do theirs.
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: samhill On: Mon May 13, 2013 6:44 pm

It was you that said that you were not a guard but management like that made you far superior, I have many friends that are prison guards & law officers as well. I never said one thing against our troops just the war, you are just like another that reads what they want into everything. Sadly when you get to my age bracket there isn't much family left but when my son was in the service he as well as I knew the risks & accepted them as part of the job. At least we both agree that we work for a paycheck & now the troops do make a decent paycheck, when I was in it wasn't that way but I knew that before & felt sorry for the guys that had good paying jobs & got drafted but they didn't run & hide, plead mental illness or get other deferments they went & did their job for their country & little else so I guess now I've satisfied someone's wish for me to say something patriotic & no I still won't apologize for doing or saying so. I also spent the better part of yesterday with my wife, after all it was Mothers Day. ;)
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: Rwalker On: Mon May 13, 2013 6:55 pm

Please re-read. I said neither. I simply stated that management positions within the state are all non-union. I didn't even specify prison jobs...

Seems like someone else is only reading what they want. ;)
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: samhill On: Mon May 13, 2013 7:23 pm

Your right I may have taken it the wrong way when I said prison guards get paid well & you said you get paid handsomely but are not a guard. You have said many times in the past that you work in the prison system in close contact with prisoners so I just guessed it was as a guard. Naturally not all prisons are the same & I have very limited experience in them but when I did the only ones in close contact that I saw were indeed guards, it is just based on what I saw in 3 different prisons.
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