Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: Ed.A On: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:21 pm

I love how the vote to reduce spending was Bi-partisan ( 1 Dem more than Rep) is how they ( Samhill included) are trying to frame this cover-up of epic proportions.

Wha was being discussed, what was being reduced was Embassy protection priority, do we spend a million in London or Lybia? It's not rocket science but then again we're dealing idiots who think Guam will tip over if we put to many Marines on one side or Putting the Flag on MARS! My my...
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:29 pm

Ed, where did I ever say the voting was one sided? I said the ones making the most noise voted against funding.
Dann, what do we have officers in the services for if every engagement comes from the POTUS? Your ignorance of warfare is understood but you yourself have to believe it.
Lets see if Obama doesn't do what (whoever) someone wants that doesn't have any idea of how many Americans may be there that's wrong. When Bush & Co. outright lied about WMD that led to an invasion of another country for no reason, cost thousands of lives & billions of dollars that's right. Why don't all you world conquerors join together & go attack another country? My hope is the next war someone wants for oil or some other business venture is one where nobody goes, maybe we can have the Armed Forces of NO. Let all the Chicken Hawks go.
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: Ed.A On: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:49 pm

Oh c'mon, you'd never indict a Democrat anyway, so your point is moot.

Sam, you do realize that the biggest scandle of lour lifetime was a bungled attempt to break into DNC HQ's in Watergate towers right?

A Terrorist attack on US soverign soil, in an unstable and violent fledgling new Gov'mnt with rogue Al-queda forces all around on the 9-11 anniversary.
An assigned security liason was denied repeated requests for increased force...time after time.

Transcripts are now showing that the Embassy called Tripoly for help once they saw their perimeter breached, they then called Washington to inform them of their dire situtation...too late the hero as they say.

There was NO PROTEST SAM, there was no crowd of spontanious ACTS OF AGRESSION logged anywhere.

4 US Citizens are Dead becuase of the lack of support of the Administration.

Worse yet, they trotted out Susan Rice to LIE and redirect away any culpability of OBama.... who of course called them "Bumps in the Road".

People should not only resign, but Obama should step down.
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:16 pm

Here's the latest:

It's now officially Romney/Ryan's fault this Benghazi debacle is garnering national attention ......... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

WOW is this administration scrambling or what?!!? :lol: PANIC MODE!!

I couldn't make this stuff up if I tried: http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/10/obama ... nal-issue/
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:32 pm

Unlike you Ed I wasn't there, as far as I know there were demonstrations at several U.S.embassies just about the same time including the one in Benghazi, could be just a coincidence or maybe planned. In either event it made for a great cover for a planned attack, don't forget the Ambassador was taken to a hospital by Libyans who may have been demonstrators or just friends. There are also at least hundreds of Americans there that had no protection what so ever. Wouldn't it have been great to just send a couple missiles in there to land as they may without a target, that would have sent a message that they better leave those other Americans alone. My opinion is that the Embassy should have been shut down & remained that way until a stable Gov. had been established, that's just me, unlike you I don't have the top secret clearance any longer to know what goes on behind the scenes.
The greatest scandal in my time was the assassination of J.F.K. but that's just me.
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:36 pm

In my opinion, when our now deceased Embassador BEGGED for more security, the Obama administration should have gave them MORE SECURITY.

But that's just me. :roll:
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: Dann757 On: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:43 pm

samhill wrote:Your ignorance of warfare is understood but you yourself have to believe it.


samhill wrote:Wouldn't it have been great to just send a couple missiles in there to land as they may without a target,


They don't send missiles with out targets. Who is ignorant of warfare? Just because you were at the concert doesn't mean you have a backstage pass.

However you may be implementing a strategy or two of Sun Tzu yourself, whether or not you realize it.

" A military operation involves deception. Even though you are competent, appear to be incompetant. Though effective, appear to be ineffective."

" Draw them in with the prospect of gain, take them by confusion."

" Use anger to throw them into disarray."

You can find em, you attempt to fix 'em, but you use the same flanking maneuvers and generally fail to finish 'em.

Anyway, this current news will continue to evolve and I look forward to reading your same strategic comments :D
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:55 pm

I know what your saying Smitty, believe it or not I agree even if in the first place I wouldn't have even had the man there. I don't know who asked for what or when, I also heard that he often went around without any security & IMO that should have never happened, I question why it's paid security rather than Marines or CIA, not that those guys didn't do everything they could but what is any Embassy going to do against a attack like that, even if they have more manpower? The whole thing is a bunch of BS, these A-holes that were running for election get more security, there are some places to cut funding & some that should never be cut. The thing I'm trying to get across is you can't just go in there if you don't know who your looking for, what do we do occupy another country when that has never turned out?
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: Ed.A On: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:55 pm

samhill wrote:Unlike you Ed I wasn't there, as far as I know there were demonstrations at several U.S.embassies just about the same time including the one in Benghazi, could be just a coincidence or maybe planned.


Actually if you read "anything"...listened to "anything" or watched "anything"...you'd know that what I wrote was reported by a Lybian Security Guard that survived and gave his insight from his hospital bed.

We HAVE TRANSCRIPTS that show NO PROTESTS were going on at the Bengazi Consulate, WTH are your talking about?

Cut it Sam, by you apologizing for this makes you just as culpable. For Shame.
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:44 am

Ed, what I am saying is (& remember I said it was planned from the start) they didn't know what was going on until after the fact. A security guard that survived the attack & then told about it didn't say anything before the attack, it wasn't advertised in the newspapers. How do you know who to go after until you find out who did it? Shame on you, just like a third grade mentality, we have transcripts that show no protests, where were those transcripts before or even during the attack?
Is this the guard you are talking about two days after the attack?
http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/09/13/4257683/guard-at-consulate-in-libya-says.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:41 pm

samhill wrote:Ed, what I am saying is (& remember I said it was planned from the start) they didn't know what was going on until after the fact.


Obama is ultimately responsible for this policy of appeasement and faulty attempt at normalization in the volatile muslim world. They DID know what was going on in general. The cover up is the State Dept. and Hilary and Rice attempting to blame the incident on the Youtube vid you didn't bother to watch, even though you have all day every day to look for it.
The very article you presented says the radical islamists are online, and see everything that goes on. What they see is projected weakness and appeasement, which emboldens them even further. Obama and Biden spiked the ball so many times with the Bin Laden thing, purely for political gain. Then Obama on the campaign trail had the nerve to call the Libyan radical islam govt. a "young democracy."
You should direct your shame on you's at them. Ed's shame on you was obviously his frustration at another one of your attempts to blame every Obama blunder on Bush and the republicans, to the point of absurdity.
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: Ed.A On: Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:52 pm

One of the four Americans killed in Libya on Tuesday was an online gamer, using the handle "Vile Rat" in the game "EVE Online." He was an avid participant of EVE, having served in the game’s virtual government as a cunning and influential intergalactic diplomat in a sprawling virtual galaxy. On Tuesday night, he wrote to his fellow gamers, "Assuming we don’t die tonight. We saw one of our ‘police’ that guard the compound taking pictures." He was dead a few hours later. Wired and AP

How's that Nero Act working out Sam?
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:34 pm

Did all his fellow gamers call their Congressperson & demand something be done? All this he said she said crap is just that, just when did this country have to start outsourcing security & who owns the Co.s that are doing it? There is a lot more here than just this sad attack.
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:32 pm

Why the hell would the U.S. State Department FORBID Marines from carrying live ammunition while "guarding" a U.S. Embassy????

Who the *censored* is running this country???? :mad: What kind of idiotic MORON leads that way??? :mad3:

http://freebeacon.com/reports-marines-n ... live-ammo/
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Re: Blatant LIES from Obama about Benghazi warrant many ?'s

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:41 pm

That's one of the points I'm trying to make Smitty, somewhere along the line someone decided it's cheaper to have private security at a lot of the Embassies, either that or we are running short of Marines but that used to be a highly specialized group.
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