1 or 2 coils in Harman III

1 or 2 coils in Harman III

PostBy: TCMW On: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:32 pm

Justed got a Harman III.

Want to use the 21T hot water coil. http://www.hilkoil.com/product.htm
Have a 200btu oil boiler with 80gal phase III indirect water heater, three zones and six people in Conn..
I'm gonna pipe the water to the boiler with a three speed cicr.

No btu rating on the 21T coil. Wondering if 1 is too little or 2 is too much.

Also if anyone is running Harman III which size coal they like best.

Many Thxs Sam
TCMW
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: MARK III

Re: 1 or 2 coils in Harman III

PostBy: Cap On: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:06 pm

Nut coal works best with that shaker system. You could even use stove coal. I am not a big fan of pea coal but your Mark III could use pea too.
I'd go with the biggest coil or most coil I could fit. The single U shaped coil may not be enough, speaking of which, I have a new unused U-shape coil, SS 1" M NPT ends I'd part with if anyone is interested.
Cap
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Harman SF 250, domestic hot water loop, heat accumulator

Re: 1 or 2 coils in Harman III

PostBy: TCMW On: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:12 pm

Thxs Cap for the advise.

Read some posts today on how the coils pitted bad for smitty. gonna have to passivate them with naval jelly before install and stop any condensation. wonder if i have them chrome plated first?

Still havent setup the 6"flue. wondering about masonry now?
TCMW
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: MARK III

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Re: 1 or 2 coils in Harman III

PostBy: Bootstrap On: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:08 am

Here's a question about the coil that goes into that stove, can you fab one out of iron pipe? The same kind of pipe used for natural gas or propane lines?
Bootstrap
 
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Re: 1 or 2 coils in Harman III

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:45 am

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SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: 1 or 2 coils in Harman III

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:26 pm

Hi Bootstrap,

Yes, you could make a coil out of iron pipe. The water jacket in my Hitzer 75 is made out of black pipe and has little to no rust at all on it after 30 years. In fact, maybe iron pipe is better, due to wall thickness, than stainless?

You can find pictures of my stoves water jacket under the title Hitzer boiler.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Leisure Line Lil' Heater.
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer model 75.
Other Heating: Oil and Natural Gas.

Re: 1 or 2 coils in Harman III

PostBy: TCMW On: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:05 pm

Thxs guys for the input.

From what I have read and discussed I like the idea of buying 316 stainless elbows 150#(7.00ea x6) & nipples.

Then apply the Passivation jelly and install.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: MARK III

Re: 1 or 2 coils in Harman III

PostBy: Cap On: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:59 pm

I like the sch 40 ( or is it sch 10 ) pipe manifold, but why use petroleum jelly? I'd use good quality neverseize.
Buy 316 if you can find it.
Cap
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Harman SF 250, domestic hot water loop, heat accumulator

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