DS Machine Quality Control

Re: DS Machine Quality Control

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:39 pm

rberq wrote:
oldsch wrote:It almost sounds like the front sheet metal that the door frames bolt to is not flat. I could see having a casting problem in one door frame but both seems unlikely.

Are the door frames cast iron, or are they steel? My metallurgy skills are such that all I know is they are black. :lol:
A straight-edge shows the stove body to be flat.


I'm pretty sure the flange the door mounts to if cast. It's bolted to the 1/4" plate steel body.
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Re: DS Machine Quality Control

PostBy: oliver power On: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:48 am

EarthWindandFire wrote:These are true concerns, I am planning on a DS Circulator or 300-9 hot air furnace for next season. Hopefully they become aware of the issues and work hard to resolve them. I'm sure David and Amos would be willing to address anyone's stove issues immediately to the best of their abilities.
I too am watching this quality control situation. I'm thinking of playing with a DS Machine stove next year. Should I continue to see poor quality / workmanship, I'll buy another HITZER 50-93. The HITZER quality, and performance is Great!! Just thought I'd play with a new toy in the shop.
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Re: DS Machine Quality Control

PostBy: KingCoal On: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:26 am

OP, my experience with the new DSM1400 is not like that.

i have no problems or issues of workmanship at all.

results may vary of course.
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Re: DS Machine Quality Control

PostBy: rberq On: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:37 am

KingCoal wrote:OP, my experience with the new DSM1400 is not like that.
i have no problems or issues of workmanship at all.

Maybe mine was assembled on a Friday afternoon just before quitting time. :(
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Re: DS Machine Quality Control

PostBy: rberq On: Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:45 pm

I'm On Fire wrote:
rberq wrote:Are the door frames cast iron, or are they steel?

I'm pretty sure the flange the door mounts to is cast. It's bolted to the 1/4" plate steel body.

Yes, when I called DS Machine, they said both the frame and the door are cast.
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Re: DS Machine Quality Control

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:58 pm

I have an older Basement #4 ...
No Quality issues...
The steel screws that hold the cast frame to the steel body finally rotted...
Moist Cape Cod Beach air is the issue...
Then some rust jacking...
Both issues of my location...
I did change over to hinge pins rather than the bolts that came with the stove...
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Re: DS Machine Quality Control

PostBy: rberq On: Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:23 pm

CapeCoaler wrote:The steel screws that hold the cast frame to the steel body finally rotted...

Did you just replace them with identical screws? It looks like I could replace most of mine with bolts and nuts, but there is no access on the bottom ones to put a nut on, so they will require screws.
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Re: DS Machine Quality Control

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:28 pm

Hate to admit it but runnin' NG where the #4 is...
House gettin' remodeled and well the NG is just easier with the current situation...
I will drill out and use bolts...
I was going to leave heads inside stove nuts outside...
No time with the 3 little ones to get goin' on that project yet.
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Re: DS Machine Quality Control

PostBy: kaboom On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:32 am

rberq wrote:
CapeCoaler wrote:The steel screws that hold the cast frame to the steel body finally rotted...

Did you just replace them with identical screws? It looks like I could replace most of mine with bolts and nuts, but there is no access on the bottom ones to put a nut on, so they will require screws.


I was able to replace all the door screws on my stove after removing some fire brick. CapeCoaler had suggested putting the nuts on the outside, which sounded like a good idea. Because I already had cad. plated 1/4 - 28 Gr.8 screws, that is what I used.

Before you drill, check the location of the interior angle iron that supports the fire brick. One screw head, on the lower right I think needed to be ground down a little in order to clear.
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