GM positive valve seals - why the 2mm gap at the bottom?

GM positive valve seals - why the 2mm gap at the bottom?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:24 pm

The reason I ask, is because I bottomed the first 2 I installed. Just gently tapped them down using a 13mm deep socket & hammer. Can't find any info on the net, the GM service manual for this engine, or the products website ( Sealed Power [Federal-Mogul] ).

I can't see any reason why bottoming them is bad ... aside from the wear marks on the valve not lining up exactly ... or maybe it distorts the top of the seal where the spring rests? If this thing burns oil after all this work I swear I will detonate the whole unit out back ..... :blowup:

2000 GMC Jimmy engine - 4.3 V6 Vortec "W" .
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Re: GM positive valve seals - why the 2mm gap at the bottom?

PostBy: grumpy On: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:39 pm

Donate it to Knob Creek.. :)
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Re: GM positive valve seals - why the 2mm gap at the bottom?

PostBy: crazy4coal On: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:43 pm

Smitty, GM does that just to PISS YOU OFF!...lol
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Re: GM positive valve seals - why the 2mm gap at the bottom?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:45 pm

They all piss me off ..... but the reasons why can all be traced back to the EPA.

Now THAT pisses me off! :mad:


Knob Creek is some good *censored*. ;) Just so happen to have a large bottle of it here. :D
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Re: GM positive valve seals - why the 2mm gap at the bottom?

PostBy: mozz On: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:29 pm

Google sucks anymore, i am trying to learn Yahoo search for good results. Here is a thread on the 4.3 but turbo version where they are talking valve seals.
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=10647
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Re: GM positive valve seals - why the 2mm gap at the bottom?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:37 pm

Yeah I don't use either one anymore, but if I have a hard time finding something I go Yahoo over Google - I hear too many bad things about Google, so I don't go there.

Thanks for the link Mozz, but that guy has a 1st gen engine there - I've got a 2nd gen. Totally different animal head-wise. Definitely tough finding info on this!

Guess I shouldn't worry about it too much - this engine's been out since '96, so somebody would have a horror story or 2 by now if it was a major issue ... unless I'm the only dummy on the planet that rammed the things to the bottom. That could very well be the case .... :lol:
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Re: GM positive valve seals - why the 2mm gap at the bottom?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:21 pm

I don't see any harm in bottoming these - do you? Would be impossible to get them straight otherwise ... unless I stuck my dental pick under it & seated it at each "corner" . Sounds like too much of a pain in the ass for me.

I'll get a pic later of the stock seal as they were from the factory with the gap at the base ....
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Re: GM positive valve seals - why the 2mm gap at the bottom?

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:35 pm

Theres good info here, But it costs a few bucks for each Bulletin. http://www.aera.org/tech-center/search-library/
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Re: GM positive valve seals - why the 2mm gap at the bottom?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:13 am

Thanks anyway .. but I've got enough cash in this thing. WAAAY too much, actually... :sick:

Anyway, the engine doesn't blow one puff of smoke - running, at startup, or at startup after sitting weeks. I guess bottoming the seals has no effect on sealing. Didn't think it would, but when I see the factory leave a 2mm gap at the bottom, it makes me wonder .... :gee:
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