KITCHEN RANGES

Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:32 am

coalnewbie wrote:
My garage can always use a cook stove!


A $15K garage warmer, what did I do wrong in life? Outta my league but LOL. Hey Martha, is that you in disguise? BTW an old Volvo, now that's a great idea.


nah I would just keep that Zephyr in there ;) Yea you know when my wife and I set out to buy a new car this year we bought a 1986 Volvo 245GL . we already have a 1988 244DL and a 67&66122s but we wanted the estate version of the 240 because we got a dog and had a kid. I bought a new car once in my life in 2006. A ford ranger and I still have it. But I will never have a car payment again.

Old cars, old stoves, old house, old motorcycles, Young wife 8-) I got my priorities straight hahah!
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Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:35 am

Make it easy. Just call Emery tell him the space that it needs to fit into, how the flue is situated and he'll tell you any dozen or so models that will fit. He knows more about kitchen ranges than anyone else around I would suspect.
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Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:55 am

... but William you are missing the point, he desires a Rayburn it's not about functionality and no Emery does not have an equivalent. We ran a Rayburn against an oak wall for many years including the bitter winter of 1954 where my parents tried to melt the paint off the ceiling to stay warm. The boiler is at the back so it's possible, illegal in the US, but possible.
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Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: firebug On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:45 am

Hey, maybe a Glenwood cabinet range is something for you?

- relatively straight lines
- appears to sit flat against the wall
- the stove pipe exits on top, not in the rear
- the splashback is practical -in my eyes-
- and a warming compartment on top
- no fancy feet, sits straight on the floor, no useless space under the range

take a look at the link below, couldn´t copy the pic:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/margaret_cook/2358380501/in/photostream/
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Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:48 am

coalnewbie wrote:... but William you are missing the point, he desires a Rayburn it's not about functionality and no Emery does not have an equivalent. We ran a Rayburn against an oak wall for many years including the bitter winter of 1954 where my parents tried to melt the paint off the ceiling to stay warm. The boiler is at the back so it's possible, illegal in the US, but possible.


He may not have an equivalent, but he probably has something better. :D
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Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:39 am

He may not have an equivalent, but he probably has something better.


... but Steve that is not the point..... get it yet? The suggested alternatives are UGLY (geez guys) to me as well and I am the first to say Rayburns have questionable functionality.
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Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:40 am

coalnewbie wrote:
He may not have an equivalent, but he probably has something better.


... but Steve that is not the point..... get it yet?

I do, was just joshin with you. ;)
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Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:43 am

wsherrick wrote:Make it easy. Just call Emery tell him the space that it needs to fit into, how the flue is situated and he'll tell you any dozen or so models that will fit. He knows more about kitchen ranges than anyone else around I would suspect.


I tried that last year a few times with the base heaters. That was a no go. But maybe I will give it a shot again this spring and see what he has to offer.


coalnewbie wrote:... but William you are missing the point, he desires a Rayburn it's not about functionality and no Emery does not have an equivalent. We ran a Rayburn against an oak wall for many years including the bitter winter of 1954 where my parents tried to melt the paint off the ceiling to stay warm. The boiler is at the back so it's possible, illegal in the US, but possible.


No a lot of it is functionality and I'm not going in blind . I can name you 5 families I know in southwest England that use Rayburns and are very happy with them. Nothing better than a warm stove to come into from a damp cold rainy England day.

Functionality includes space utilization as well and how it would function in my kitchen.
I don't why you have such a hate for these stoves lol. I keep sayin please show me stoves that can come close to the Rayburn's good features but no one post anything. What I'm coming across in the US stove stove market is 3 styles . Super fancy cast, cast with cabinates on top, and appliance looking white giants.
And they all look the same! Come on let's dig up something different. If sh*t burned better than coal I still wouldn't burn it because it smells bad!
firebug wrote:Hey, maybe a Glenwood cabinet range is something for you?

- relatively straight lines
- appears to sit flat against the wall
- the stove pipe exits on top, not in the rear
- the splashback is practical -in my eyes-
- and a warming compartment on top
- no fancy feet, sits straight on the floor, no useless space under the range

take a look at the link below, couldn´t copy the pic:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/margaret_cook/2358380501/in/photostream/


Firebug, that is an option but not having much experience with any cook stove designs I wonder if that flue hook up actually sits out from the back of the stove leaving space behind the base of the stove.
Look at one I mean on the cook stove I just bought.


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In front of that pipe goes the splash panel.
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Two things wrong with the stove. It looks like an appliance , and the space waste in the rear.
Now I bought it because it is in awesome condition and I wanted to restore it. When I took a harder look at it I decided it wouldn't really go in with the old country farm house we have. It screams 1950's but my house is much older.

I do want functionality and something practical but when I'm want to buy something I don't want to be stuck with the same automatic car that everyone else drives with the few options you have to choose from... Henry Ford said you can have the model T in any color as long as it was black. What is this you can have any stove you want as long as it looks the same as all the other American stoves ? Lol

Coalnewbie you are the stove Nazi ;)

And where is all this illegal talk coming from? Is it because you live in NY? Remember they make laws that the rest of the US doesn't recognize or agree with. I'm being serious when I ask that. I'm not being sarcastic .
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Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:52 am

http://www.transoceanltd.com/appliances ... /deva.html

Shame these are wood stoves as they look the part at least. ;) They have some other "new" but are mostly copies of old designs.


Check these out too!

http://sopkainc.com/index.php/product/magnum
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Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:54 am

I can name you 5 families I know in southwest England that use Rayburns and are very happy with them.


Josh you are getting defensive and you have no need to be, Rayburns are very, very well made and very different from US stoves (as he sits in front of his Jotul yearning for a firebug type stove as he in turn yearns for a Glenwood base burner). They last forever although that is an unproven claim at this time. It rings your bell and that is all that counts. However, the fact that 5 families like it in a land far away that is rainy and cool with a different climate to yours and that does not have the temperature extremes like you do, are in love with theirs? That is irrelevant.
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Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:01 am

The cook stove in my avatar is nice . I really like that style. I think Steve has something like that don't you?

This is why I need to make a trip up to one of the big stoves dealers up north and just come back with one . Right now I just have the Internet and photos. Which is hard to make a decision by.


I think you are figuring me all wrong.

I like this style stove And I found some other photos where it looks to be pretty flush to the back.
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I could deal without the buckle but I love the heavy cast iron look! It would go with the house perfect.
And I know the stove hospital, barnstable and Bryant all have stove similar to this and even the same one . That is a Modern Glenwood E ... At least that's what the photo said.
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Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:04 am

Yuk, my point exactly. In the beholder my friend.
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Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:06 am

Yep Josh, Mine is a Glenwood 208C. They come in many configurations too. Mine has a warming shelf on top but it's easy enough to remove if you like the flat top look.
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Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:08 am

Remember they make laws that the rest of the US doesn't recognize or agree with.


Hmmm, and exactly where does NFPA not apply to and which town has inspectors that ignore that and which insurance companies will pay out when you burn your house to the ground, I need names now as yes, I am ready to move.
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Re: KITCHEN RANGES

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:10 am

Yep Josh, Mine is a Glenwood 208C.


.. and the name of the installer that can fit this into a kitchen that you can't swing a cat around in. Come on guys I need names.
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